Mini 914 ~ Mafia Reverberation (Game Over!)

[Rhinox]

-No Decision-

Rhinox

unacceptable. Absolutely UNacceptable.

incant: porkens

its the best I've got right now. Whether or not he really is a newb, theres really no reason to pull out the newb card pre-emptively before he'd even done anything to warrant needing the newb card. Its like he's pre-emptively defending himself. I admit I haven't investigated everyone yet, but I've caught scum doing this before.

p.s. what was wrong with

YELLOW

? I can't read the gold well on mafSepia, but the yellow looked just fine...

[Juls]

Unincant: Rhinox, Incant: Spyrex

Big reason why is that Spyrex is a doublevoter and he was happily going along with the plan to lynch all but two townies and have an insta-win. I think if I was a town double-voter I wouldn't encourage that kind of talk. Also, given the mechanic of this game I think doublevote is a more scummy ability.

(I admit that I have skimmed at best at this point and plan to do a more thorugh read this weekend so if some of this has been explained and I missed it I will correct my thought process in my next post)

Oh...and Rhinox is scum...just gut at this point but I feel I have played with him enough, as both town and scum, that I get a vibe from him.

[Vi]

Incantation:

:arrow:

Sotty7 (P-7)

~

zoraster

,

SerialClergyman

,

SpyreX

,

-INCANT-

Porkens (P-9)

~

VP Baltar

,

Rhinox

SpyreX (P-9)

~

Porkens

,

Juls

VP Baltar (P-10)

~

Jahudo

zoraster (P-10)

~

Jazzmyn

BloodCovenent (P-10)

~ Mighty Orbots

Jazzmyn (P-10)

~

BloodCovenent

SerialClergyman (P-10)

~

Sotty7

Rhinox (P-11)

~

Juls

-No Decision-

Rhinox

-Rhinox has reverted to yellow in spite of it being unreadable on SubSilver.

--At Intensity λ, it will take 11 Incants to Purge...
--The Intensity will increase on Saturday, January 30, 2010...

[Jahudo]

Serial, why do you still refuse to address the why Porkens stuff? Your vote is on me now, you can explain that now surely.

Seconded. Serial, do you still find porkens scummy? Is it on something that would be good to share now?

Oh...and Rhinox is scum...just gut at this point but I feel I have played with him enough, as both town and scum, that I get a vibe from him.

That was quick. Did you pick it up by his first post or his second?

And what's all this about wizards and zombies? I thought we were just the darkness in this game :/

[Juls]

That was quick. Did you pick it up by his first post or his second?

Both actually.

[Porkens]

incant: Sotty

Spy is town. He wouldn't pull this as Scum or 3rd party. /meta

Worrying about the reporter is silly. And the doublevote fit fine with the slugishness of the game. Spy was giving us something to talk about. obvious.

My newbcards were fair warning, I'm...obvoiusly not a real noob, but w/e.

Sotty's reaction and flailing onto people on his wagon makes me feel comfortable with the vote above.

[SpyreX]

To be fair I totally would pull A stunt as scum or third party.

However, a couple questions for one Juls:

1.) If my nefarious scheme was to setup for a "hey lets pick a small group and kill the rest day 1":
--- Why would I blow my cover this early?
--- How would using a doublevote to push it up help? I'd have to get myself in a position where I was one of the cool kids, time it close enough to lynch that I didn't get busted AND blow enough smoke that leaving 3 people left would be A-Ok.

2.) If you are certain Rhinox is scum via :vomit: meta... why in the name of pete are you voting for me?

[Porkens]

not so early in day 1 you wouldnt. well maybe. precidence? pics or it didn't happen.

[Mighty Orbots]

Hai guyz. Did you know zoraster was in this game?

True story.

incant: zoraster

[SpyreX]

... zoraster IS in this game.

The things you learn.

Yohooo

[VP Baltar]

And what's all this about wizards and zombies? I thought we were just the darkness in this game :/

I don't know about wizards, but the zombies bit is a reference to a game that Spy, Serial and I were just in together.

I'm down with,

Incant zoraster

, especially since I know he is posting elsewhere.

given the mechanic of this game I think doublevote is a more scummy ability.

Explain this please.

[Jahudo]

Hai guyz. Did you know zoraster was in this game?

Did you know BloodCovenent was in this game too? It's hard to see his color in tigers tho.

But why unvote him now and switch to another lurker?

[Jazzmyn]

It looks like the Moychandiser role is a cult recruiter, who probably would also have the Marketing ability which looks like a random powerrole enabler. They both have that Spaceballs theme, which is a Mel Brooks spoof of Star Wars.

Thanks. That makes sense, and it conforms to my investi-googling results from which I found that Spaceballs™ is a parody/satire movie that is pretty funny (based on the several short clips I watched), and that the merchandising/moychandizing references in the game thread's OP come from that movie. Clearly, I need more lowbrow humour in my life.

But I still don't get how that movie relates to the rest of the OP or this game overall, so I'm guessing that it's a one-off and that I'm not intended to understand it.

My investi-Googling, however, has not been very successful in figuring out some of the other terms and abilities referenced in the GM's opening post, so I'm still somewhat baffled. And I can't make any sense out of the multiple zombie and wizard references by players either.

So, for now, I think that I just have to accept that I don't get it and treat this game more or less as a normal game and hope that I can figure out the parts I don't understand as the game evolves.

Also, I can't make much sense out of the Sotty7 wagon being as large as it is. She seems to be one of the more active players so far, and I don't see anything with her posts/scumhunting. There isn't much to go on yet, but at least she's actively hunting, which is something I personally find difficult in the early stages of a game, so I'm not going to criticize her for it.

Am I reading the Reporter stuff properly in concluding that a Reporter win =/= a Darkness loss? In other words, a third party whose win does not mean our loss, but a parallel win? If so, then I don't see any harm in Spyrex revealing his doublevote ability as he did when he did.

I'm going to re-read the game this afternoon or tonight, so more later.

Regards,
Jazz

[Rhinox]

That was quick. Did you pick it up by his first post or his second?

Both actually.

I suppose I can't blame you for suspecting me since I haven't until now been able to give 100% to this (or any of my other ongoings) game this week. But I can't see how you can call me scum based on meta, when I've barely begun playing. Can you elaborate on your read on me? What have I done that you've seen me do as scum -or- what have I not done that you've seen me do as town? Also, if I'm scum, why are you voting spy?

[Juls]

Just a quick post...more later.

Rhinox is scum because I find his town converation to be natural and flow in a normal manner. When he is scum, his interactions feel forced.

Spy, I am not voting Rhinox on meta because I will try to get more evidence of the same before doing so. The reason I voted for you (and to answer your question) is that you were

encouraging

the plan to mass lynch. If I were a doublevoter and town were considering this. I wouldn't "out" myself and say "wait wait...double voter" but I also wouldn't encourage it. I would probably skirt the issue and give it little to no credence.

@VP, the reason I believe double-vote would be more likely to be scum is that it could be used to save a buddy from getting lynched. If there were a tie and both town and scum were going to be lynched, a mafia could double vote under the guise of suspicion on another player instead of it being a direct save of their buddy.

I still need to read more thoroughly but those are my general thoughts.

[Rhinox]

Rhinox is scum because I find his town converation to be natural and flow in a normal manner. When he is scum, his interactions feel forced.

So what about my posts seems forced to you?

My newbcards were fair warning, I'm...obvoiusly not a real noob, but w/e.

fair warning for... what exactly if your not a real noob?

Spy, is your double vote passive or active? I.E. do you always double vote, or can you control both votes independantly, change them whenever you like, and apply them to different players?

[Porkens]

fair warning for... what exactly if your not a real noob?

fair warning for exactly what I said in those posts.

[SpyreX]

Spy, I am not voting Rhinox on meta because I will try to get more evidence of the same before doing so. The reason I voted for you (and to answer your question) is that you were encouraging the plan to mass lynch. If I were a doublevoter and town were considering this. I wouldn't "out" myself and say "wait wait...double voter" but I also wouldn't encourage it. I would probably skirt the issue and give it little to no credence.

Except for I am encouraging multiple lynches - not a mass lynch at this point. IF we end up with a "confirmed" block that's a different story.

And, in the scenario layed out if thats before lylo all I'm doing is guaranteeing my lynch the next day. POWERFUL WIZARDS know better than that.

Spy, is your double vote passive or active? I.E. do you always double vote, or can you control both votes independantly, change them whenever you like, and apply them to different players?

Its on the front page, sheeeeshhhh. But, just to be clear that secret vote stays there this incantation. My other vote is free to move.

[Porkens]

Why do you keep saying that in caps? Is it an in-joke that I'm missing?

[Jazzmyn]

@VP, the reason I believe double-vote would be more likely to be scum is that it could be used to save a buddy from getting lynched. If there were a tie and both town and scum were going to be lynched, a mafia could double vote under the guise of suspicion on another player instead of it being a direct save of their buddy.

But with the lynch mechanism as it is - i.e. that all players who reach the necessary purge level will die - if there was a tie and both town and scum were going to be purged, doublevoting for a third player wouldn't save the first two from getting purged, it would only potentially cause the third player to be also be purged, wouldn't it?

Regards,
Jazz

[Porkens]

Jazz, that's an interesting idea. However, if the doublevote causes the lynch, then, logically, no one else would have been at the threshold already.

[SerialClergyman]

Hello, I've been very busy, sorry for not being here as much.

The reason to vote porkchop was twpfold, firstly he was scummy due to his lack of scumhunting intent, but the more important reasoning was that he would be the most susceptible to early pressure based on his first few posts. He asked if this was a theme game off the bat, which was an odd question given the rule post and the PM invite. He played the 'it could be all too confusing for me' card and talked about using simple scumtells in other games. All in all, the picture he was painting was one of the easiest to test with pressure.

But all in all it's just 4 pages in getting the ball rolling play. I didn't really get to divine much about Porkens because Sotty's question really stood out to me. Her OMGUS-y reply labelling her two voters as scum due to a bizarre protect-and-switch play at all of L-9 was only confirmation that my vote was where it needed to be.

[Porkens]

For the record, the question "Is this a theme game" was supposed to be a joke.

[Juls]

Don't let porkens fool you. I watched him nail 2 scum in 2 nights as a town-vigilante once. He is NOT a newb. He's just been away for a while.

[Vi]

As debate continued, everyone couldn't help but notice that the pillar in the center of the room seemed to be waxing larger...
Even though everyone suspected it COULD get much more intense in due time, it already felt too close for comfort...

---

Incantation:

:arrow:

Sotty7 (P-5)

~

zoraster

,

SerialClergyman

,

SpyreX

,

-INCANT-

,

Porkens

zoraster (P-7)

~

Jazzmyn

, Mighty Orbots,

VP Baltar

Porkens (P-9)

~

VP Baltar

,

Rhinox

SpyreX (P-9)

~

Porkens

,

Juls

VP Baltar (P-9)

~

Jahudo

Jazzmyn (P-9)

~

BloodCovenent

SerialClergyman (P-9)

~

Sotty7

BloodCovenent (P-10)

~

Mighty Orbots

--At Intensity κ, it will take

11

10

Incants to Purge...
--The Intensity will increase on Tuesday, February 2, 2010...

---If you have any questions about the references, etc. made in this game's flavor, you *could* just ask...