SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[My Milked Eek]

MafiaSSK, cite ceci, si tu veux citer autres langues.

[Sanhora]

@Ani
Why ask who a post restriction has when there was a big chance that it would be obvious?

@Kai
Any reason why you voted Parama over Ray?

Sorry to disappoint you Ray, but you have played with me before.

Nul, answer why you tried voting no-lynch. Did you read the game when you posted post 65?

If one of Tubby and SSK is lying, I'm leaning towards Tubby. Ani, were you informed how many post-restricted players are present in this game or not?

Vote Parama

More players should do that.

[Sanhora]

Are you also post restriced, MME?

[My Milked Eek]

Nope, just showing of my French skills.

[My Milked Eek]

And that "veux" should be "peux". lol.

[RayFrost]

Sanhora do you really want to have me figuring out who you are an alt of?

[Sanhora]

Sanhora do you really want to have me figuring out who you are an alt of?

Nope, I just like to point it out
You can try though, but it would only be a waste of time, so you're better of doing something else. Like voting Parama.

[RayFrost]

Yah, I'm way too lazy to search...

You were obviously an unmentionable, or I'd recognize your writing style by now.

Anyway, parama is obv town right now.

I also totally have a post restriction to write in English (no, I don't have a restriction, for those of you that have no sense of humor)

unvote, vote: nul

[Fishythefish]

I have a post restriction. Luckily, it shouldn't restrict me too much, though it may hurt everyone else's eyes.

I get a gut scum feeling from Kai's argument with Llama. Feels like Kai is arguing a POV generally held as protown at least partly for the sake of doing so.

Will my posts be easier to read if I write everything in bold, like this?

[My Milked Eek]

Not really. We'll just select your text.

Why aren't you voting Kai then?

[Fishythefish]

Oh yeah, selecting text will help a lot.

Because, in my excitement that I remembered to close my color tags, I totally forgot.

vote: Kai

[tubby216]

This is really damn annoying

@tubby

Do you get modkilled if you break your PR?
Do you get a warning if you break your PR?
What is the warning if one exists?
What is your role name?
What is the flavor behind your role?
Are there any limitations on quoting?

@SSK - Do not answer any of these untill tubby does.

If someone is faking this BS im going to figure out who

Estou verificando com o moderador agora. Assim que eu descobrir eu vou deixar você sabe.

[Sanhora]

Did I miss something Ray? Since when is Parama obv town?
Also, I'd like to hear your reasons behind the Nul vote.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod, is there any limitations on the other players quoting SSK or Tubby? Are we required to stick to english?

You may quote MafiaSSK or tubby216 as is. (Hell, you can quote what I say in thread and leave the text in purple.) If I didn't advertise this game as bastard-modded, then yes, you would have to stick to English as per rule #6, but for this one, if you haven't posted yet and you want to fake a language restriction, you can. It's the wrath of the players if you're caught doing so, though, so be consistent.

VOTE COUNT

Anon (1): Pomegranate
Datadanne (1): LlamaFluff
DocPotter (1): wolframnhart
Kairyuu (2): sykedoc, FishytheFish
Nul (1): RayFrost
Parama (2): Kairyuu, Sanhora
RayFrost (1): animorpherv1
wolframnhart (1): DocPotter
Not voting (15): ace5993, Anon, Bogre, Datadanne, DeathNote, DedicatedScribe, kyle99, MafiaSSK, My Milked Eek, Nul, pman5595, SaintKerrigan, tubby216, xuie77, Parama

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

[Kairyuu]

@Sanhora: Because I've played with Ray before, whereas Parama I don't have any meta on. A simple choice of pressuring the unknown rather than the known.

@Fishy: So because I'm arguing from a perspective generally taken as pro-town I'm scummy. That's called the Too Townie fallacy. Try again.

@tubby: Post restriction I can see. Post restriction AND millerhood is a bit of a stretch.

FoS: tubby

That may or may not turn into a vote once I actually run your posts through a translator later.

@nul: No lynch is not an option except in very specific situations. I expect a detailed explanation for your choice in your next post.

[StrangerCoug]

Whatever mafiascum.net's current server is, who was an

instrument of corporate greed

, has been modkilled on Day 1 for not letting me update the first post.

That's me venting frustration and nobody's vote has been reset. I would only be resetting votes on the modkillee if this were a real modkill anyway.

Edit:

It apparently got it, but I still felt like doing it.

[tubby216]

@Sanhora: Because I've played with Ray before, whereas Parama I don't have any meta on. A simple choice of pressuring the unknown rather than the known.

@Fishy: So because I'm arguing from a perspective generally taken as pro-town I'm scummy. That's called the Too Townie fallacy. Try again.

@tubby: Post restriction I can see. Post restriction AND millerhood is a bit of a stretch.

FoS: tubby

That may or may not turn into a vote once I actually run your posts through a translator later.

@nul: No lynch is not an option except in very specific situations. I expect a detailed explanation for your choice in your next post.

Procure você acha que eu como este? Eu MILLERS HATE! Eu particularmente detesto isso, agora que eu sou um. Muito ainda por cima eu tenho essa restrição post. Uma vez que eu ouvi de volta do mod eu vou deixar você saber os meus limites para ela.

[SaintKerrigan]

I also totally have a post restriction to write in English

Dammit I was totally gonna do that!

Vote: RayFrost

for beating me to the punch.

Also,

two

players with alt-language post restrictions? I've never played a bastard mod game before, so for those of you who have, is two alt-language post restrictions unusual?

[My Milked Eek]

exceder o fora eu penso que eu estou algum tipo de moleiro também. algum sabor sobre ser a foriegn entender portanto devo ser culpado,,

Décès ou régulier? Car je suis aussi un meunier, régulier.

Kairyuu should read the thead more carefully. Even the French bits.

[Kairyuu]

Well now. Consider me stupid.

[Fishythefish]

@Fishy: So because I'm arguing from a perspective generally taken as pro-town I'm scummy. That's called the Too Townie fallacy. Try again.

That's not what I said. I get the feeling you are arguing from such a perspective in order to look protown. And trying hard to look protown is something I associate with scum (as opposed to just

looking protown

, which is what the TT fallacy covers).

[Kairyuu]

@Fishy: The problem being that there is no difference between what you say and what I say. By acknowledging that my stance is considered to be pro-town you are also acknowledging that by arguing it I appear pro-town. You are then following that up with the statement that I am scum because of it. The Too Townie fallacy covers cases where a person is suspected because their arguments are supposedly contrived with the purpose of appearing pro-town, which is another way of saying that the person in question is acting pro-town so they must be scum.

Also please note that as either alignment my goal is to get my opponents lynched, not to look overly pro-town. As town I'd much rather lynch scum and get painted as scummy because of it than prevent my own lynch, and as scum getting my target lynched is top priority, even if I have to take heat to do it.

Oh, and as a sidenote:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10122
^^Me as town supporting a policy vig of Nat as an alternative to a policy lynch, which I opposed.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11819
^^Me as scum hiding behind a policy lynch of Mastin for claiming death miller.

I believe that's all the meta I have on the subject of policy lynches, but if someone wants to go analyze the rest of my games (I have several dozen I believe) then they are welcome to it.

[Fishythefish]

@Fishy: The problem being that there is no difference between what you say and what I say. By acknowledging that my stance is considered to be pro-town you are also acknowledging that by arguing it I appear pro-town.

Absolutely not. I think that policy lynches are generally considered antitown, and opposing them protown. However, here, it doesn't feel like you are opposing the idea for in-game reasons, but just for the sake of looking protown. Thus I think you are scum trying (and failing) to look protown.

The Too Townie fallacy covers cases where a person is suspected because their arguments are supposedly contrived with the purpose of appearing pro-town, which is another way of saying that the person in question is acting pro-town so they must be scum.

I don't know if this is true in the common usage, but it's flat out wrong. If someone doesn't drop any scumtells, that makes them more likely protown. But if I know that someone is deliberately going out of their way to avoid dropping scumtells, I think they are probably more likely scum.
I don't think your arguments are contrived to look protown because they look so protown; they look contrived. The TT fallacy is a red herring here.

[wolframnhart]

Thanks for the link tot the firefox translator, it's really helping right now.

Also has there been a miller claim? Any counter claim to that because one of these guys has to be lying about their restriction, which makes me think the miller is a lie too.

and:

vote: no lynch

unvote, vote nul

Why the hell would your first post be for a no vote? Even one that wasn't posted properly?

[wolframnhart]

EBWOP

unvote, vote nul