Mini 905- Mafia in Sienna OVER

[My Milked Eek]

That last quote should be from leaf obviously.

[My Milked Eek]

[quote="pman]
Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

Bullshit[/quote][/quote][/quote]
Gut is usually triggered by something, could you try to pinpoint the location of the incentive to this "gut" feeling?

[pman5595]

Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

Bullshit

Vote: Ellibereth

You obviously are still joking around. once you stop my vote comes off of you.

If you aren't joking around... then my vote should really stay on you.

[Ellibereth]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 42#2041742
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 44#2043544
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 87#2044087

Leaf, links to your games please.

[Ellibereth]

Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

Bullshit

Vote: Ellibereth

You obviously are still joking around. once you stop my vote comes off of you.

If you aren't joking around... then my vote should really stay on you.

I'm not joking.

[pman5595]

Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

Bullshit

Vote: Ellibereth

You obviously are still joking around. once you stop my vote comes off of you.

If you aren't joking around... then my vote should really stay on you.

I'm not joking.

[Oman]

Sotty7, what's the best method for catching scum?

Paying attention.

Vote: Oman

I thought it was pretty clear that Elli was joking around.

That precisely the point I'm making. Elli in the last game (as town) sat back, chilled, and then went all out citing "gut" for all votes at all times, voting people and giving them no relief.

Elli copped my vote in the last game, Sotty. He laughed and wore it like a charm.

Compare that with his actions in this game. See the flippant nature of defence is now a joking offence. See how the fierce attack is now self-defence.

Elli is not the same alignment she was, I'd put money on that.

[pman5595]

EBWOP: sorry here's what I was trying to submit

Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

Bullshit

Vote: Ellibereth

You obviously are still joking around. once you stop my vote comes off of you.

If you aren't joking around... then my vote should really stay on you.

I'm not joking.

then tell me your reasoning of the leafsnail vote. Please include something other than "gut".

[Ellibereth]

Oman, if my memory serves, you never voted for me last time.
Pman, I suppose you don't want "he's scum" either? Meh, I'll pass.

[Oman]

Oh no thats right, I was an SK, I wouldn't have voted for you. I was a bit more cautious with that early vote because I had a kill power.

Anyway, suspicions/vote, its all the same, bro.

[pman5595]

Pman, I suppose you don't want "he's scum" either? Meh, I'll pass.

If I could vote for you twice I would.

WE ARE OUT OF THE JOKING PERIOD

[Ellibereth]

Oman, all I can tell you is that you're meta-read is wrong.
Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

[pman5595]

Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

No, it was because you were (and are) acting stupidly. If the acting stupid was a joke, I would unvote when you stop. But you say the acting stupid is not a joke. That is an even better reason to vote for you. Give me good reasons that you are voting for leafsnail, or unvote if you cannot find any.

[pman5595]

just thought of this. How common is a post restriction in mini normal games?

[Ellibereth]

Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

No, it was because you were (and are) acting stupidly. If the acting stupid was a joke, I would unvote when you stop. But you say the acting stupid is not a joke. That is an even better reason to vote for you. Give me good reasons that you are voting for leafsnail, or unvote if you cannot find any.

What happened to voting only when you thought people were scum?

[Ellibereth]

just thought of this. How common is a post restriction in mini normal games?

Nil, explain.

[pman5595]

Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

No, it was because you were (and are) acting stupidly. If the acting stupid was a joke, I would unvote when you stop. But you say the acting stupid is not a joke. That is an even better reason to vote for you. Give me good reasons that you are voting for leafsnail, or unvote if you cannot find any.

What happened to voting only when you thought people were scum?

your unexplained targeting of leaf gives me extremely scummy vibes.

[Ellibereth]

Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

No, it was because you were (and are) acting stupidly. If the acting stupid was a joke, I would unvote when you stop. But you say the acting stupid is not a joke. That is an even better reason to vote for you. Give me good reasons that you are voting for leafsnail, or unvote if you cannot find any.

What happened to voting only when you thought people were scum?

your unexplained targeting of leaf gives me extremely scummy vibes.

Nonono, you said you originally voted me for being stupid, not for being scummy.

[pman5595]

just thought of this. How common is a post restriction in mini normal games?

Nil, explain.

I thought you might be forced to act stupidly by a post restriction

[pman5595]

Pman, I'M NOT JOKING.
And the original reason for your vote in 102 was because you thought I was joking, correct?

No, it was because you were (and are) acting stupidly. If the acting stupid was a joke, I would unvote when you stop. But you say the acting stupid is not a joke. That is an even better reason to vote for you. Give me good reasons that you are voting for leafsnail, or unvote if you cannot find any.

What happened to voting only when you thought people were scum?

your unexplained targeting of leaf gives me extremely scummy vibes.

Nonono, you said you originally voted me for being stupid, not for being scummy.

acting scummy by being stupid by voting for leafsnail without any reasoning

[Thesp]

Why are you against the RVS? And why do you think your mostly pointless questions are a better alternative?

I'm not sure why you think RVS is a productive means of our time (that is what you're suggesting, right?). I disagree with your assessment that my questions are pointless.

That's a rather silly policy and I'm tempted to random vote.

What's silly about it?

Also, since I haven't played a game with you before, why do you dislike RVS? Do you fear a hammer vote could randomly be reached or do you just think it's childish?

More the latter, but primarily because it's a waste of time and usually only muddies things up. I want things to be productive. I'm also a big proponent of a diminishing point of returns with posting, and RVS is antithetical to that. On top of that, if there are people who are active early then peter out, I'd rather them be mildly useful to start, and I'm not convinced that RVS is the best method of obtaining useful information as rapidly as possible.

Sotty7, what's the best method for catching scum?

Paying attention.

Vote: Oman

I thought it was pretty clear that Elli was joking around.

It was, but it's odd that when a little "heat" was coming her way, she immediately dropped the joke.

How likely would town have had the reaction you describe?

RVS is over, as of now. If anyone "random" votes, I will stab them in the eye. Then I will vote for them and I may not leave from my vote for the day until they are lynched from the neck.

This seems contradictory to the fact that you still feel the need to ask these random questions:

What gave you the impression that they were random?

Firstly, what was the purpose of these questions?
Secondly, if we were out of the RVS when you made your post, then why didn't you make any serious comments?

To answer Firstly, I am trying to get meaningful responses from which to make keen observations on to find the scumz for us.
To answer Secondly, the RVS officially ended

when

I posted. My post was entirely serious business.

I </3 the Leafsnail wagon.

If you're going to paint me as scummy for saying "partner" instead of "partners," you're gonna have to do better than that.

I don't like the feel of this post.

I'm agreeing with pmann5595 more than I expect to. (Primarily re: Leafsnail and ConfidAnon.)

Ellibereth, you've once again failed to answer my question, and have instead just thrown a vote my way. Perhaps you could at least explain why you find me suspicious, or who else you find suspicious?

Gut.

Gut should never be the only reason to think someone is mafia. If you cannot find any actual evidence that they are mafia, you should not target them

I've quoted the part of your post that is wrong. (Looks like Ellibereth agrees with me.)

WE ARE OUT OF THE JOKING PERIOD

NEVAR

just thought of this. How common is a post restriction in mini normal games?

Nil, explain.

QFT.

PPE:

acting scummy by being stupid by voting for leafsnail without any reasoning

Voting without reasoning is not "stupid" by any means.

That said, I endorse the wagon on Ellibereth. I like this one better, though:

Vote: ConfidAnon.

[Ellibereth]

Ok, so stupid = scummy according to you right now, correct?

[Ellibereth]

The above post was intended for pman.

[pman5595]

acting scummy by being stupid by voting for leafsnail without any reasoning

Voting without reasoning is not "stupid" by any means.

says the person who so hates the RVS

explain

[pman5595]

Ok, so stupid = scummy according to you right now, correct?

it depends on how they are acting stupidly

if they are acting stupidly by voting for someone with no reasoning, yes.