Newbie 888 - Game Over!

[pablito]

RandomMaster replaces Barrette Huron

[Magic Trainer]

Cool, I hope we can start this. I'd just like to say I'v played and watched a few mafia games on over forums but this is my first game here.

[RandomMaster]

Confirm, this will be my first game. I hope it goes well.

[pablito]

Day 1 begins! With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Lastsurvivor]

I'll start off the random votes.

Vote: kunkstar7

[kunkstar7]

Oh no you didn'!

Vote: Lastsurvivor

. OMGUS at its finest.

[Lastsurvivor]

It's not OMGUS on my part. Just Random voting.

[kunkstar7]

Lol I meant my vote against you On the defense already?

[Lastsurvivor]

Ohh, sorry, haha. Totally misinterpreted that.

[Medix]

Vote RandomMaster

Hello all.

[MichelSableheart]

Good, it's time to get things under way. Our top priority at the moment should be to find the scum, but that is virtually impossible unless we get some information available. For that, we need discussion.

A widely accepted way to get discussion started is voting on non-existant to weak tells. This is sometimes called the random voting stage (or RVS). That is somewhat of a poor name, though, because actually voting randomly does not help town much. If a vote is truly random, it doesn't contain any information whatsoever. Voting arbitrary is better, because then we can wonder if scum would vote their partners, or ignore them, or...

Voting is not the only way to get discussion started though. I guess I'll do a bit of questioning in this game.

Kyiv, why were you interested in the experience levels of the other players?

Lastsurvivor, what made you decide to place your random vote on Kunkstar?

Kunkstar, you voted Lastsurvivor because he voted you. Do you believe that he is more likely to be scum because of his vote?

Medix, what is your reason for choosing Randommaster out of all players in this game?

[Kyiv]

"Kyiv, why were you interested in the experience levels of the other players?"

Confirmation is a pretty boring stage of the game. Especially when it's dragged out like that. I wanted to call attention to the game, since it dropped so low on the list.

In any case:

Vote: Lastsurvivor

[Medix]

Why did I choose him? Pure randomness, I don't have any idea about the other players, so I pick some random person. I'm sure in some time I'll get a clue.

[Lastsurvivor]

He was the first name I saw, Michel.

[kunkstar7]

Kunkstar, you voted Lastsurvivor because he voted you. Do you believe that he is more likely to be scum because of his vote?

No, his vote provides no true information whatsoever. What my vote served to do was allow questions like the ones you pose.

[RandomMaster]

"Kyiv, why were you interested in the experience levels of the other players?"

Confirmation is a pretty boring stage of the game. Especially when it's dragged out like that. I wanted to call attention to the game, since it dropped so low on the list.

In any case:

Vote: Lastsurvivor

What is your reasonning to adding a second vote towards Lastsurvivor? The more information we can get for the town, the better it will serve in the long run.

[Kyiv]

He's the best choice I have considering the circumstances. There's no reason to vote anyone else over him.

[Lastsurvivor]

He's the best choice I have considering the circumstances. There's no reason to vote anyone else over him.

Explain what makes me a better choice over anyone else.

[Kyiv]

^ Your misinterpretation

[Lastsurvivor]

A misread while someone is trying to keep on trudging till midnight isn't much. Based on the "circumstances", I guess I would be the best choice if you had to vote.

[RandomMaster]

Kyiv and Lastsurvivor, can you elaborate what would be your definitions of the circumstances right now? Day 1 has just begun...

[Lastsurvivor]

Kyiv and Lastsurvivor, can you elaborate what would be your definitions of the circumstances right now? Day 1 has just begun...

He means that nothing else has really happened that's out of the ordinary except for my misinterpretation, I'm guessing.

[PatriotsDynasty09]

vote Kyiv

http://www.random.org/

this website said 8

[MichelSableheart]

Confirmation is a pretty boring stage of the game. Especially when it's dragged out like that. I wanted to call attention to the game, since it dropped so low on the list.

That doesn't actually answer my question. It explains why you posted, but it doesn't answer why you chose the experience levels of players as the topic of conversation.

I think you may very well be avoiding the question intentionally there. Did you perhaps want to figure out who could easily be fooled and who should be high on your list of nightkill targets?

Vote: Kyiv

Why did I choose him? Pure randomness, I don't have any idea about the other players, so I pick some random person. I'm sure in some time I'll get a clue.

Sure, but even then you need to have some way to make the decission. Did you throw dice? Look at the playerlist to see which name you found interesting? Choose the player whose name came second to last alphabetically?

Patriots, you claim that your vote was the result of a completely, objectively random proces. If you are speaking the truth, your vote does not actually help the town win this game. If you truly determined your vote completely randomly, it contains no information whatsoever, and therefore does not help with starting discussion.

[PatriotsDynasty09]

Patriots, you claim that your vote was the result of a completely, objectively random proces. If you are speaking the truth, your vote does not actually help the town win this game. If you truly determined your vote completely randomly, it contains no information whatsoever, and therefore does not help with starting discussion.

@Michel:
Do you agree that many games start out with a RVS (Random Voting Stage)?

At this point in the game RV's are there to get people to talk or try to get scum to slip up. It can actually greatly help the town because you never know if Kyiv or whoever gets voted gets really defensive over a random vote. To me that's a scum slip and can help the town win.