R-SURVIVAL -- Game Over

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, do you see any pro-town benefit in using your ability?

Well, we can protect our most pro-town players by putting them in the safezone along with a couple not-so-protown players. That way (if scum decide to shoot inside the safezone), we'll save our most protown player and make scum NK someone we might be suspicious of.

[ortolan]

Nacho, do you see any pro-town benefit in using your ability?

Well, we can protect our most pro-town players by putting them in the safezone along with a couple not-so-protown players. That way (if scum decide to shoot inside the safezone), we'll save our most protown player and make scum NK someone we might be suspicious of.

that benefit sounds completely negligible compared to the risk of finding a scummy player "really really pro-town" to begin with, coupled with the WIFOM of not knowing whether the people who died died because they were randomly selected, or because they are the only (or one of the few) townies in there.

[Cobalt]

how about we don't gate anyone

[Parama]

GAT: nachomamma8

[Parama]

GAT: nachomamma8

[Ellibereth]

how about we don't gate anyone

Not allowed to.

[Cobalt]

don't gate = don't put people in the safe zone

[Ellibereth]

If you mean don't bring anyone in I agree.

[bird1111]

I agree, if there is no real pro-town reason to do it (and I haven't heard any that convinced me), then it shouldn't be done at all.

[ortolan]

good-o

[Parama]

The safe zone just seems like a way for mafia to keep other scum from getting dayvigged. If we vote scum as the Gatekeeper then they'll likely move all their scumbuddies into the safe zone. And the safe zone doesn't protect from NKs or lynches, so it doesn't block any mafia actions.
Randomly voting the gatekeeper is risky but since it does reduce the amount of time the scum get to talk pre-game it's the best option right now. I know it's too early to be doubting other players but for all we know Cobalt's "random" vote might not be random at all :/

And I am taking this game WAY too seriously atm. Geez, me, this is too early to be doing all this speculation!

[bird1111]

The safe zone just seems like a way for mafia to keep other scum from getting dayvigged. If we vote scum as the Gatekeeper then they'll likely move all their scumbuddies into the safe zone. And the safe zone doesn't protect from NKs or lynches, so it doesn't block any mafia actions.
Randomly voting the gatekeeper is risky but since it does reduce the amount of time the scum get to talk pre-game it's the best option right now. I know it's too early to be doubting other players but for all we know Cobalt's "random" vote might not be random at all :/

And I am taking this game WAY too seriously atm. Geez, me, this is too early to be doing all this speculation!

If the gatekeeper actually tries to use the safe zone, lynch them as only scum has any reason too.

Though we should be careful about lynching the people who were put in the safe zone, as scum might try putting townies there as a gambit.

[Cobalt]

The safe zone just seems like a way for mafia to keep other scum from getting dayvigged. If we vote scum as the Gatekeeper then they'll likely move all their scumbuddies into the safe zone. And the safe zone doesn't protect from NKs or lynches, so it doesn't block any mafia actions.
Randomly voting the gatekeeper is risky but since it does reduce the amount of time the scum get to talk pre-game it's the best option right now. I know it's too early to be doubting other players but for all we know Cobalt's "random" vote might not be random at all :/

And I am taking this game WAY too seriously atm. Geez, me, this is too early to be doing all this speculation!

Um, there's no way to fake the dice.

[Nachomamma8]

Does it really matter who the gatekeeper is since we're not using the safe zone?

[yabbaguy]

Hi everyone.

GAT: Nacho

Still thinking about theory behind safezone- there has to be some way it can be useful. Maybe defending powerclaimers from a NK?

[Ellibereth]

what the heck are you talking about?

[yabbaguy]

Stuff a claimed [cop] with two other plain majority and diffuse the odds of hitting them, for example. Maybe even increase the odds by further adding more majority members. That complicates minority's job, and makes it more difficult to kill the person they're after.

So I'd start stashing majority away asap to begin this process.

By the way, if I'm melting your brain already, I'd suggest playing Candy Land instead.

[Cobalt]

yabba, there are no power roles.

[Albert B. Rampage]

yabba, there are no power roles.

This is a closed setup. I have provided sample "vanilla" type role PMs.

[Cobalt]

Okay then.

[Ellibereth]

Charter seemed to have been here, he's left.
For the record.

[yabbaguy]

Nacho is at G-1 now, I believe. Anybody? Somebody?

[ortolan]

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[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, how do we dayvig? bold in-thread or PM, or both?

In-thread. I don't approve of cowardly PMs.

[Cobalt]

yabba, there are no power roles.

This is a closed setup. I have provided sample "vanilla" type role PMs.

the OP says open setup.
???