That would be your "because DTMaster told me I win with the town", i.e. a reference to a town aligned role PM.KittyMo wrote:I don't see the soft claim you're talking about.
ItKittyMo wrote:Just based on personal experience, I very, very rarely see scum put themselves in the spotlight early in the game. I remember my first game as scum, and on Day 1 I was absolutely terrified of being attacked early on, and definitely focused more on acting protown than pretending to scumhunt and such things. You can call it WIFOM if you want, but that's my experience.
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WIFOM because the reality is that scum do put themselves in the spotlight, precisely because it's convenient for them to say, "Scum would never do that"... etc., etc., ad infinitum. That's why it's WIFOM.Sure, please cite specific posts in which you've mixed up "town" and "scum" in your posts when you meant the opposite.KittyMo wrote:I do this often; if you're the kind of person that looks at meta, you can see for yourself, or if you'd like me to quote past games I can.
Annnd, more WIFOM. I.e.: "As scum, I would do A, not B, and since I'm doing B, I must be town." vs. As scum in the past, you've done A, not B, so this time, as scum, you decide to do B, not A, in hopes that others will think you must be town. Are you beginning to see why posting WIFOM stuff like that is not helpful?KittyMo wrote:I'm the kind of girl that makes the long, pretty, well-thought out cases as scum because I don't actually have to figure out who the scum are
I read it again and it seems that I conflated farside's vote on Zach for voting KittyMo and farside's pushing for an answer to the question and only unvoting him after being called on the scumminess of doing so, into one. My bad.Nikanor wrote:I looked and looked and looked and could not find where farside pushed or voted Zach for not answering KittyMo's question. Could you quote/postlink please?
Generally, those posts are summaries from my game notes, and the posts include the anomalous stuff, the things to think about, the question marks, the potentially suspicious stuff. My overall reads, though, include gut reads, and all the other stuff in my notes, which I generally don't post until later (on the "don't give the scum too much information on townie reads" theory, and also because I find that keeping some things to myself initially can be helpful in my analysis of players, especially if scum are attacking someone who I have a town read on, which is a better time to pull those things out of my notes).Nikanor wrote:Jazzmyn, how do you get 'Overall neutral, leaning town,' out of a post of completely negative points?
@Nik: Why did you point out farside's soft claim and not KittyMo's?
@farside: I don't comprehend your post 409 at all. Please explain.
Regards,
Jazz
