Open 173: Pie E7 Game over

[charter]

vote dramonic

Since he has made like ten posts and hasn't voted or given an opinion on anyone. Just active lurking.

[charter]

No dramonic, it is frustrating dealing with this incompetence, doubly so when he's using it to justify a poor vote.

[hohum]

notice how he's refusing to point out why I'm being ignorant and trying to change the topic by going on a lurker hunt.

[hohum]

Prediction: kittymo appears in thread and sides against me

[charter]

notice how he's refusing to point out why I'm being ignorant and trying to change the topic by going on a lurker hunt.

You should probably just stop posting. It is impeding the process of finding scum.

[dramonic]

You know, voting me is nice and all, but you can't call me an active lurker when the game hasn't even stretched long enough for someone to receive a prod.

You wanna vote me, then make a case, don't just throw some crap together

[charter]

You know, voting me is nice and all, but you can't call me an active lurker when the game hasn't even stretched long enough for someone to receive a prod.

You wanna vote me, then make a case, don't just throw some crap together

Sorry, I meant you are posting a ton, but you haven't said much. You're just posting for the sake of posting, not to try and find scum.

[hohum]

notice how he's refusing to point out why I'm being ignorant and trying to change the topic by going on a lurker hunt.

You should probably just stop posting. It is impeding the process of finding scum.

says the man that tore down a dramonic wagon.

Why are you now so interested in dramonic?

Also, you're dodging questions:

How exactly do you propose that we go about scum hunting?

That wasn't a rhetorical question, especially not after a comment like that.

Third time I've asked this question now. Are you even READING the thread?

[hohum]

@mod: Please prod charter

[charter]

I'm not reading your posts very carefully, that's for sure. That's a dumb question, but whatever. Ask questions, look at votes, lynch scum.

Why are you voting me again? Still clinging to two mislynches?

[dramonic]

On one hand, I could vote Hohum for putting me at L-1 on page three, but that'd be hypocrisy.
On the other, I could vote you for being wagon-crazy, but RotM shows you do that as town.
On a third (!) hand, with the mod, the three of us form about 60~70% of the game so far and we got kicked out of RVS rather swiftly, I'm not going to vote somene without a read on them.

[hohum]

I'm not reading your posts very carefully, that's for sure.

Clearly. Duly noted.

That's a dumb question, but whatever.

It's not a dumb question, since you clearly disapprove of my method of scum hunting. Since I'm so high on your suspect list (which mostly seems to be based on my play stile) why don't you come after me instead of dramonic? It reeks of a diversion tactic. "Gee, I'm under heat so I'll feed someone else to the lions."

Ask questions, look at votes, lynch scum.

Why are you voting me again? Still clinging to two mislynches?

Are you being purposefully dense?

[charter]

Ok, policy ignoring hohum's posts.

On one hand, I could vote Hohum for putting me at L-1 on page three, but that'd be hypocrisy.
On the other, I could vote you for being wagon-crazy, but RotM shows you do that as town.
On a third (!) hand, with the mod, the three of us form about 60~70% of the game so far and we got kicked out of RVS rather swiftly, I'm not going to vote somene without a read on them.

Who are you most suspicious of currently?

[hohum]

Ok, policy ignoring hohum's posts.

You're ignoring me because you know I'm right. You're stubbornly refusing to admit that you're wrong about the setup, which tells me you're doing it on purpose and it wasn't an "oops I forgot to think ahead" mistake.

You've admitted that you're not actually reading the thread but merely skimming through it.

This thread needs more charter lynching.

[charter]

Ok, policy ignoring hohum's posts.

You're ignoring me because you know I'm right. You're stubbornly refusing to admit that you're wrong about the setup, which tells me you're doing it on purpose and it wasn't an "oops I forgot to think ahead" mistake.

You've admitted that you're not actually reading the thread but merely skimming through it.

This thread needs more charter lynching.

Alright, last time I respond, I promise.

EXPLAIN IN CLEAR ENGLISH HOW TOWN GETS TWO MISLYNCHES IF SCUM QUICKHAMMER TOWN DAY ONE. GO ON.

[hohum]

Ok, policy ignoring hohum's posts.

You're ignoring me because you know I'm right. You're stubbornly refusing to admit that you're wrong about the setup, which tells me you're doing it on purpose and it wasn't an "oops I forgot to think ahead" mistake.

You've admitted that you're not actually reading the thread but merely skimming through it.

This thread needs more charter lynching.

Alright, last time I respond, I promise.

EXPLAIN IN CLEAR ENGLISH HOW TOWN GETS TWO MISLYNCHES IF SCUM QUICKHAMMER TOWN DAY ONE. GO ON.

Now you're getting emotional. Tsk Tsk.

Scum hammer town, Scum NK town.

Day 2: (5:2) (lylo)

Town lynch obvscum, Scum NK town

Day 3 (4:1) (no more lylo, genius)

4:1 == room for another mislynch before lylo

Town mislynch again, Scum NK town

Day 4 (2:1) (lylo)

Are you done being assy now?

[charter]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE ALIVE DAY TWO? THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE ALIVE NOW. LEARN. MATH.

I apologize to everyone else for spamming the thread with this, but this is an important issue that needs to be clear for everyone.

[hohum]

you're right.

Scum hammer town, Scum NK town.

Day 2: (3:2) (lylo)

Town lynch obvscum, Scum NK town

Day 3 (2:1) (still lylo)

Town mislynch again, Scum NK town, scum win

But this scenario also takes the town PRs completely out of the picture. Scum would need to get extremely lucky for this to happen.

Bottom line is nobody was going to quick hammer this early in the game, so for you to sit there and tear down wagons and build cases based on game theory is anti-town at best and scummy as hell at worst.

More charter lynching please.

[charter]

unvote

My vote is going on hohum, just going to wait a few pages before we lynch him. Here's his original reason for voting me.

Further experience tells me that scum like to fight this point in these small setups tooth and nail.

All these things that I was arguing were right, and now he's changed his reason once I've pointed this out. He's just trying to get in a lynch, but doing it all wrong.

[charter]

I know the rules. Your inability to grasp the basic mechanics of this setup is astounding. If we catch 1 of the two scum the scum have to drive us down to a 1:1 endgame, hence we get 2 mislynches instead of 1.

Lulz.

[hohum]

everything? No, absolutely not. Just because you're correct about the setup doesn't mean that you're not A) arguing theory (I still say that L-1 isn't a bad thing and my position is internally consistent), your question dodging, ignoring me, admittal to skimming the thread, diversion tactics with your dramonic vote etc.

All still stands

[hohum]

the change of vote from dramonic to me is definitely opportunistic and OMGUSy. You're capitalizing on a mistake.

My original reason for voting you was not the game setup debate but because you actively tore down dramonic's wagon.

[charter]

I think you missed where I didn't vote you. OH MY GOD. NOT READING THE THREAD. OH MY GOD. SCUM.

Please, you've been wrong about everything you've said so far, not suprisingly, about me being scum as well. Please start trying, kthxbai.

[hohum]

okay so you didn't vote, but you are pushing for my lynch. Might as well be voting me.

[Scien]

Hey. Someone who is smarter than me. Times on PMs, those are when they were sent, not when they were received right?

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[To Hohum] You should probably just stop posting. It is impeding the process of finding scum.

Oh? What do you think of his questioning? You are implying that he is not scum I believe otherwise you would want him to talk as much as possible. Adding that to the way you worded the above, I get the feeling you are sure that he is town. Scummy.

As for Charter vs Hohum, I skimmed and plan to reread before commenting. I really want my PM question answered, because I very much believe that we got our PMs after thread was created and Dramonic just LIED in thread.