/in-vitational 3: Brass & Shrapnel. Over. before 831

Budja · Post Post #325 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:44 am

Maybe he didn't realise the implications. But it was an odd move.
I guess it could be a gambit to give Macavity the win, but that feels unlikely.

Ok, I guess I'll reveal the main reason behind my suspicions.
I am a vig.
I tried to kill CDB yesterday immediately after Porochaz's death (I was sure one of them was prob scum and it was LyLo) but failed.
I did kill hascow (solely on gut) so I am not a blank shot.
So I was either roleblocked or CDB was doc-protected.

I am guessing that doc-protected is more likely so I am voting CDB.

(and elimination does suggest CDB as scum as well as I mentioned before).

Yeah, I am risking the scum-kill here but its probably worth it.
I don't think anyone else should claim. I'm not a great scum-kill and I don't want them to narrow down their options without risk.

MacavityLock · Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:06 am

Budja wrote:Maybe he didn't realise the implications. But it was an odd move.

This.

Need a bit of time to re-read given Kublai-scum. Budja, you're claiming that hascow was your kill and that the scum did not make a "Night" 1 kill?

Budja · Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:09 am

Unless they also targeted hascow, they did not.

That is why I was uncertain whether the scum would kill in LyLo.

MacavityLock · Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:51 am

Budja, unless you can give a good reason not to, please kill CDB during this morning period.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:19 am

MacavityLock wrote:Budja, unless you can give a good reason not to, please kill CDB during this morning period.

what happens if CDB is town?

MacavityLock · Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:29 am

Then we lynch Budja. I have a hard time seeing you as scum, CKD, and I hope you see the same about me.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:24 am

wait...we are at 4 people...if Budja is town...and kills CDB who is town...and you (ML) are scum....town loses...

now, I am not 100% on anyone right now, so I dont want to make a rash move here...KK would have no problem killing himself to insure a win and to give his partner town creds....so yesterday could have been a gambit.

thinking.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:41 am

ML, could have have voted me yesterday...if you are scum...it was a good play

Bud..kill CDB

MacavityLock · Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:55 am

Yeah, I'd ask you to look at Day 1, where I was probably pushing hardest on the Kublai wagon, and my actions yesterday, which were to immediately call out Kublai's kill as maf. As scum, there would have been incentive for me to at least wait a bit and see if anyone else figured it out.

Budja · Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:11 pm

I am killing CDB.

Korts · Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:05 pm

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention--Morning ends on Oct 5, 6 PM EST.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #336 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:41 am

did you send the kill?

Budja · Post Post #337 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:19 am

Yep.

Just hoping CDB can't roleblock now

.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #338 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:06 am

did you send the kill BEFORE the mods last post?

Budja · Post Post #339 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:53 pm

I sent the kill about a day before that. Remember that kills don't resolve until the end of morning.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:27 am

well looks like we are waiting till then.

Korts · Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:23 am

Morning ends ~12 hours late. Nothing happens. Activity check will happen soon.

MacavityLock · Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:00 am

Hmm. Possibilities:
1) Budja lied about the CDB kill this morning.
2) Budja was RBed.
3) CDB was doc'ed.
4) Budja is a blank vig, and hascow was also a scum kill.

Anything I'm missing?

Budja · Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:00 pm

Nothing that I can see.

vote: CDB

I am willing to bet that 4) is false. It looks unlikely enough to me and I am getting strong town-reads on CKD and Macavity.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:19 pm

if we are dealing with 2 scum total....CDB wasnt doced....Bud could have been RBed, but it had to be CDB hasnt been around..so that would mean that Mac did it...which makes absolutely no sense.

I think I should have gone with my gut to begin with..

vote bud

Budja · Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:30 pm

CDB hasn't been posting but he could still have PMed the mod.

I'd like a mass-claim now, CDB first. A scum kill isn't going to end the game anymore.

MacavityLock · Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:01 pm

Anti-mass claim at this juncture. I would like a CDB claim.

MacavityLock · Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:04 pm

@mod

, if the mafia have an additional action (roleblocking or doctoring), can they do both their kill and the additional action in a single night? I couldn't find anywhere in the rules that stated one way or the other.

MacavityLock · Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:18 pm

Sorry for triple-post.

I'm pretty sure I want to No Lynch today and do the whole thing over again: Budja vigs CDB over the morning. If CDB lived via a doc-protect, that ability is lost upon first successful protect. So, if the same thing happens (no kills) we'd be able to rule out my (3) tomorrow.

It's definitely a delay, but I'm pretty sure its the optimal play.

Korts · Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:35 am

MacavityLock wrote:
@mod
, if the mafia have an additional action (roleblocking or doctoring), can they do both their kill and the additional action in a single night? I couldn't find anywhere in the rules that stated one way or the other.

The mafia can use as many abilities as are available to them throughout the day.

ChannelDelibird will be prodded.