/in-vitational 3: Brass & Shrapnel. Over. before 831

[Kublai Khan]

If I had made a random joke-vote and the mod missed it,

I wouldn't really care and I'd just keep playing and eventually place a serious vote.

I had thought that Budja's vote on me was random cause he didn't give a reason, but if he's correcting the mod, then maybe it was more serious then I had previously thought. My questioning him was a roundabout way to determine his intentions.

Really? You wouldn't want both the person you're voting for and the rest of the players to be fully aware of the fact that that person was at L-2?

My mistake, I was speaking in general terms. If I was in Budja's situation specifically, then I'd either move the vote or make it serious by correcting the mod. I was asking Budja if it was the latter.

[MacavityLock]

Oh, so weasel-y. Yeah, my vote's not moving any time soon.

Also, last post of every page FTW.

[hasdgfas]

@hasdgfas (re: post 10): You FOSes molestargazer for voting someone for not voting. Could you expand on why you view this as scummy?

Because it's jumping on something that isn't scummy at all. Voting someone for something that isn't scummy is either scummy or just horrid logic, and I think mole is smarter than that.

[molestargazer]

So you've misinterpreted the tone of my posts so far this game and you're finding me scummy for calling you out on it?

I didn't call you scummy for it.
The vote was better than a random vote and because I would've liked an explanation.
Please explain how I've misinterpreted.

Because it's jumping on something that isn't scummy at all. Voting someone for something that isn't scummy is either scummy or just horrid logic, and I think mole is smarter than that.

I understand your logic. I wasn't, however, looking for anything particularly scummy as a reason to cast my semi-random vote. Anything. That was the first thing that jumped out.

[Kublai Khan]

Oh, so weasel-y. Yeah, my vote's not moving any time soon.

What? Seriously? You asked me to clarify something and I clarified it. Now you're trying to argue that it's a scumtell?

Your case is so shallow that toddlers can wade in it unsupervised.

[hasdgfas]

Because it's jumping on something that isn't scummy at all. Voting someone for something that isn't scummy is either scummy or just horrid logic, and I think mole is smarter than that.

I understand your logic. I wasn't, however, looking for anything particularly scummy as a reason to cast my semi-random vote. Anything. That was the first thing that jumped out.

I really hate this excuse. "random" stage is not the same thing as "I can do anything I want and not get jumped on for it because it's random" stage. And then you said semi-random vote. Why did you feel like not voting was a decent reason for voting someone?

[molestargazer]

Sorry if you hate the excuse, but that's the reason.
I said Semi-random as the vote wasn't created randomly. I didn't roll a dice or use random.org or anything. I looked for any reason to vote for someone, found one, and used it.

[Vi]

I will be on V/LA between 22 and 29; Vi has been very kind and offered to take over modding duties during my absence. So play nice, have fun, and I'll be back soon.

Hello, everyone. I'm going to be your Mobile Goderator this week.
Please direct all PMs, etc. to both me and Korts until he comes back.

Thank you!

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Vote Count

(3) curiouskarmadog- ChannelDelibird, hascow, Budja

(2) Kublai Khan- MacavityLock, molestargazer
(1) Quagmire- Kublai Khan
(1) Budja- curiouskarmadog

not voting: Porochaz, Quagmire
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5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3rd 6 PM EST.

[Quagmire]

@Quagmire (29): Why do you feel that hasdgfas' reasoning behind his vote isn't legit?
@Quagmire (34): Why are you playing both sides of the discussion between curiouskarmadog and hasdgfas?

(29): Because voting anybody for anything they did during the random voting stage isn't legitimate, unless there's an extreme case. He's grasping at straws.

(34): What do you mean "playing"? Do you mean that I could be setting myself up to vote for either of them?

Because if that's what you mean, I suppose that's true.

Vote: hasdgfas

. I'm sick of seeing his poor cases and weak accusations.

This curiouskarmadog wagon is really, really scummy. hasdgfas has been pushing weak cases and is the second person on this bandwagon.

[Quagmire]

For clarification: the ckd wagon is really scummy because

he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

. Think about that for a sec.

[hasdgfas]

For clarification: the ckd wagon is really scummy because

he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

. Think about that for a sec.

RVS is no excuse.

[curiouskarmadog]

just making sure this doesnt get lost in the shuffle.

==
more answers please.

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

[Vi]

Vote Count

(3) curiouskarmadog- ChannelDelibird, hascow, Budja

(2) Kublai Khan- MacavityLock, molestargazer
(1) Quagmire- Kublai Khan
(1) Budja- curiouskarmadog
(1) hascow- Quagmire

not voting: Porochaz
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5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3rd 6 PM EST.

Budja is being prodded.

[Kublai Khan]

For clarification: the ckd wagon is really scummy because

he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

. Think about that for a sec.

Are you suggesting that it's impossible for scum to do something to give them away in the RVS?

'Cause I've got a meta example that kinda contradicts that.

[Budja]

/prodded.

...he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

So? We seem to have barely passed the RVS and I see no better leads yet.

@Kublai, my vote was semi-random as I did had a reason.

@CKD, voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage could have an effect of dampening communication and is generally bad reasoning. I dislike that.

[curiouskarmadog]

@CKD, voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage could have an effect of dampening communication and is generally bad reasoning. I dislike that.

confirm vote Budja

not only are you misrepresenting what I did, you are now back tracking.

more answers please.

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

Feels like a scummy attempt to return to RVS.

unvote, vote curiouskarmadog

CKD's attack/vote on you is weak anyway and feels quite a lot like a random vote.

you clearly are voting me because you thought was was trying to return back to RVS. stating you thought my vote was semi random.

it was not. Not being able to explain why my vote was "semi random" you now are giving motivation behind my vote that didnt exist. I voted Has because I thought his vote was scummy. It had nothing at all to do with the RVS or wanting to return back to it.

for the record, here is my vote post.

I'm voting CKD because he refused to vote MacavityLock with me, not because of his vote for you. I found his lack of camaraderie disappointing.

Fair enough, coy boy.

unvote
Vote: hasdgfas

I voted CKD because his entire post was scummy. He started by basically telling us to post as little as possible so he could be sure to catch up. Anti-town.

Then, hypocrisy. Doesn't like CKD's vote because it's "too easy" yet he votes for an easy target himself.

lol,

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

I removed my random vote to place this real one. How is that wanting to return to the RVS or random. caught you scum bag.

[Budja]

I don't get it.

me: "voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage:"
commenting on your post here: "for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it."

No contridiction here.


me: "..return to RVS."
me clarifying: "maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote"
me clarifying again: "could have an effect of dampening communication and is generally bad reasoning."

Two points here: poor reasoning and encouraging stopping communication by voting for someone who did attempt to leave the random stage.

I may be interpreting meaning you didn't intend but that is how I basically see it.

[Quagmire]

For clarification: the ckd wagon is really scummy because

he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

. Think about that for a sec.

RVS is no excuse.

Yes it is. What he did wasn't even scummy.

[Quagmire]

For clarification: the ckd wagon is really scummy because

he's being voted for for things he did during the RVS

. Think about that for a sec.

Are you suggesting that it's impossible for scum to do something to give them away in the RVS?

'Cause I've got a meta example that kinda contradicts that.

I'm not claiming that. Are you claiming ckd has?

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't get it.

me: "voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage:"
commenting on your post here: "for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it."

No contridiction here.

Even if he's voting hascow for a bad way out of the RVS, he's still got something of a case, which is part of getting out of the RVS. Your intent is good but practically, you're completely wrong.

[Vi]

Vote Count -no change-

(3) curiouskarmadog- ChannelDelibird, hascow, Budja

(2) Kublai Khan- MacavityLock, molestargazer
(1) Quagmire- Kublai Khan
(1) Budja- curiouskarmadog
(1) hascow- Quagmire

not voting: Porochaz
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5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3rd 6 PM EST.

Porochaz has been prodded.

[MacavityLock]

Apologies, busy weekend.

I don't get it.

me: "voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage:"
commenting on your post here: "for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it."

No contridiction here.

Even if he's voting hascow for a bad way out of the RVS, he's still got something of a case, which is part of getting out of the RVS. Your intent is good but practically, you're completely wrong.

I assume you're talking to Budja here? If so, do you disagree with his case against CKD? If you do disagree, are you keeping CKD at L-2 for any particular reason?

[ChannelDelibird]

Apologies, busy weekend.

I don't get it.

me: "voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage:"
commenting on your post here: "for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it."

No contridiction here.

Even if he's voting hascow for a bad way out of the RVS, he's still got something of a case, which is part of getting out of the RVS. Your intent is good but practically, you're completely wrong.

I assume you're talking to Budja here? If so, do you disagree with his case against CKD? If you do disagree, are you keeping CKD at L-2 for any particular reason?

Yes, I'm talking to Budja.
Yes, I disagree with his case.
Yes, I still think his lack of camaraderie was a bit weird.
No, I don't really think it's a serious issue.
No, I don't intend to lynch CKD at this time.
No, I haven't found a better place for my vote yet. I'll move it when I do.

Also, since when is lynch-2 a problem?

[Porochaz]

Hi, proper post coming after Ive opened up my own game.

[Vi]

Vote Count -no change-

(3) curiouskarmadog- ChannelDelibird, hascow, Budja

(2) Kublai Khan- MacavityLock, molestargazer
(1) Quagmire- Kublai Khan
(1) Budja- curiouskarmadog
(1) hascow- Quagmire

not voting: Porochaz
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5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3rd 6 PM EST.

molestargazer has been prodded.