Mafia 96 - Murder in Emerald City (Game Over!)

[roflcopter]

seriously guys, random vote stage is over, enough with the shenanigans, we can now proceed to lynching mastin

[Mastin]

kublai khan is town

We'll see.

and wins the common sense award for knowing what to do as a miller

If he's a miller, sure.
It's also a common scum tactic.

mastin needs a new start-the-game-up gag.

Nah. It works fine as is.

mastin has also committed a real scumtell

Of course I have--I claimed scum, jester, etc., and asked to be lynched, and outed my partners.

policy voting the guy who claimed miller in his first post.

Actually, it's blatant OMGUS. The miller part is just icing on the top of a small cake.

vote: mastin

Yay for bandwagons!

for great justice

Nah. I'm always this bad.

whoever killed elvis has earned my eternal ire

Probably the Ceruleans.

and i miss her already

Yea...Elvis is a good player.

[fallen angel]

Meh. I think Khan is town, mostly because I have been told to claim miller ASAP to save cop investigations and shtuff like that. Then again, what do I know. It's one in the morning and I'm barely paying attention to this. Yay for The Simpsons DVDs.

[roflcopter]

no mastin, backing up your kublai khan vote with the fact that he claimed miller is not "icing on the cake" and i will not let you pretend its part of your meaningless antics, its scummy and you will now be lynched. trying to unconfirm a player who is now as good as confirmed town will not stand on my watch.

[Mastin]

Hi Mastin!

Hello, Fallen.

*Energetic wave*

So eager to play with me, eh?

Hmmmm....

Good response.

Vote Johnny Rotten

Oh, a random vote! Nice!

Welcome to Mastin's layer. He's a serial-killer-lyncher-jester-member-of-a-four-man-mason-roleblocker-tracker-watcher group.

because he used proper capitalization

I like capitalization...

*shakes fist angrily*.

Between waving and shaking, your hands will get tired fairly quickly...

seriously guys

Me? Serious?

random vote stage is over

Nah, not yet. I'd love to break my five-person record, but I think we need another round of posts.

enough with the shenanigans

The RVS aint over until Mastin stops joking.

we can now proceed to lynching mastin

If you wish, sure.

Meh.

Hey! That's my favorite response!

I think Khan is town

Eh, he could be, he might not be. [vig directing] (a huge scum tell) It might be a good idea to vig him to make sure, though. [/vig directing].

mostly because I have been told to claim miller ASAP

He speaks the truth.

to save cop investigations and shtuff like that.

Yea...I'd generally not do stuff like that.

Then again, what do I know.

Enough to know to strive to get better.

It's one in the morning

10 for me.

and I'm barely paying attention to this.

Not paying attention-->Scumtell. Please do pay attention more.

Yay for The Simpsons DVDs

Meh.

no mastin

I get that a lot.

backing up your kublai khan vote

Backing up my OMGUS-random-vote on Kublai Khan, to be more specific.

with the fact that he claimed miller is not "icing on the cake"

Eh, it's the RVS. Not having fun in it is a scum tell.

and i will not let you pretend its part of your meaningless antics

I don't see why not. I'm always this crazy and cling onto unusual scum tells.

its scummy

Eh, if you say so.

and you will now be lynched.

Sweet. Fulfill my Jester win condition.

trying to unconfirm a player

No player is EVER confirmed at this point in the game.

who is now as good as confirmed town

I'm willing to call someone semi-confirmed if there is evidence to support that they're innocent.
Confirmed?
Over my dead body; pile up those votes to ensure I'm six feet under before this happens.

will not stand on my watch.

Meh.

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Okay, NOW the RVS is over.

[Mastin]

Me, Kublai Khan, Fallen Angel, Rofl...

Yay!
I broke my five-person record!
My record's now four-people-to-escape-RVS!

[Mastin]

Mastin Unvotes: Kublai Khan.

Because it is no longer the RVS, I need not my true RVS vote.

[Johnny Rotten]

Holy ever-loving shit!! I don't think I've ever come across a player quite like Mastin.

I seriously don't know what to do with that wall of information that he has put up in the last hour......which is probably what he wants.

[Kublai Khan]

Uh... Two observations so far:

1) roflcopter is clearing me with a little too much conviction.

2) Mastin's acting really weird. Making jokes about how scummy you are in the random voting stage is just the sort of reverse psychology trick that would appeal to Mastin. My random vote is now kinda serious. Saying stuff like this:

Eh, he could be, he might not be. [vig directing] (a huge scum tell) It might be a good idea to vig him to make sure, though. [/vig directing].

Doesn't really come off as a joke so much as it comes off like an actual blatant scum tell posing as a joke.

[Mastin]

Holy ever-loving shit!!

Yea, I get that a lot.

I don't think I've ever come across a player quite like Mastin.

That's because I'm one of a kind.

I seriously don't know what to do with that wall of information that he has put up in the last hour

Read it all, scum hunt if you can from it, draw conclusions, etc.

which is probably what he wants.

Actually, that's exactly the opposite of what I want. I LOVE people reading my stuff. I HATE people ignoring it.

[fallen angel]

Mastin acting weird is a null tell. He's Mastin, dammit!

[Mastin]

Mastin acting weird is a null tell.

Me acting normal, now, THAT is a scum tell.

He's Mastin, dammit!

Oh, man...the number of things people give me that could become part of my sig...

[Kublai Khan]

Mastin acting weird is a null tell. He's Mastin, dammit!

I've only played one game with Mastin before. The wall-o-text is expected, but the RVS activity is completely opposite what I know of him.

Reference: Newbie 742

[roflcopter]

mastin failing to respond specifically to post 33 is further evidence that he is scum

[Kise]

I wasn't lurking. I had to replace in another game and it took me 3+ hours to catch up on all the pages.

Vote: Johnny Rotten

Also, I just want to point out that this is the 2nd time tonight that I've heard of a supposed Miller claiming on D1!

Mastin, is that a Digimon in your avy? I've been curious for a while now.

[Mastin]

Uh... Two observations so far:

Ah, good, I like those.

1) roflcopter is clearing me with a little too much conviction.

Yea...I find that kinda odd as well.

2) Mastin's acting really weird.

It's normal these days.

Making jokes about how scummy you are in the random voting stage is just the sort of reverse psychology trick that would appeal to Mastin.

Yea, of course it's the kind of trick that appeals to me. I love doing it.

My random vote is now kinda serious.

Yea. I get that a lot. Too bad they're all ongoing games.

Doesn't really come off as a joke so much as it comes off like an actual blatant scum tell posing as a joke.

Gets discussion going. My RVS tactics get us discussing, even if it's discussion on me. I like the pressure. I love Slayer's/Fong's gambit.

I've only played one game with Mastin before.

Yea...thing is, I've got...hmm...

735,
742,
762,
763,
760,
Open 131,
Polygamist Mafia,
Lynch all Lurkers...

At least Eight games.
Most of the ones where I've acted this way are ongoing, though. Ask...hmm...
*takes a look at the player list*

Empking's Alt,
ZazieR,
and
Kise.

They can confirm it's what I do.

The wall-o-text is expected

To say the least. I feel uneasy not posting them.

but the RVS activity is completely opposite what I know of him.

I replaced into 742 with a page already finished, Khan.
Replacing != Playing from the beginning.

You'll see in 762 and 763 and 141 that I self-voted.
In Polygamist Mafia, I not only self-voted, but claimed scum.

I realized that my tactics weren't working as well, so...
Scummy tactics got introduced.

mastin failing to respond specifically to post 33

It's called a Simulpost. I hadn't noticed his post. Thanks for reminding me, though.

is further evidence that he is scum

Perhaps in your eyes.

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Let's see how much more I have to respond to now. I love pressure.

[Kise]

And in case anyone asks, I voted for Rotten because of his minimal post. There's so much activity going on, but he doesn't care to comment on it at all.

roflcopter is pressing for a lynch quite hard. This does seem typical Mastin, but I'm not sure if I'll believe it this time around. No vote for either of you yet until I read more of your behaviors.

And don't worry, Khan. I won't kill ya.

[Mastin]

I wasn't lurking.

If you say so.

I had to replace in another game

Kise, be careful--you might end up becoming the next me. (10+ games. :/)

and it took me 3+ hours to catch up on all the pages.

It'll take 1+ hour for most people to catch up on THIS game.

Vote: Johnny Rotten

Hmm...
1: Kise, you appear to be at least partially caught up, so you should know that at least two players have declared the RVS over. Was that a random vote?

2: Why are you bandwagonning? Fallen Angel already voted Johnny earlier.

3: Why Johnny?

Also, I just want to point out that this is the 2nd time tonight that I've heard of a supposed Miller claiming on D1!

O_O

Mastin, is that a Digimon in your avy?

...It's Zorbak. A Moglin. <_<

I've been curious for a while now.

Eh, it happens. People have called it all kinds of different things.

[Hayker]

I...uhhh....ummmmmmmm......
What the hell just happened? I know it's dumb of me to say this as it's a scum tell(one of the few I actually know of) but I'm horribly confused. This is my first large game here on mafiascum. Actually this is the largest mafia game I have played anywhere. I don't know what it was I was expecting, but I know that it wasn't this.


I find roflcopters constant strait up blaming Mastin being scum kinda scummy. Though I have to admit, I believe he brings up a few valid points.

@Kublai:I don't know for sure, but perhaps his acting different is because that was a newbie game. I can already tell how different newbie games are from large games in the first two pages.

I'm gonna assume that rvs is over for a fact, so I hope the complete and total randomness dies down a bit. Though with Mastin around....

[Mastin]

And in case anyone asks

Yes, yes I will ask. In fact, I just did. :/

I voted for Rotten because of his minimal post.

Ah, that makes sense.

In that case,

1: What do you think of Khan, especially the fact that he claimed Miller?

2: What do you think of Rofl, pushing for my lynch so early on?

3: What do you think of Fallen Angel?

4: What do you think of me?

There's so much activity going on

Yea. This time people really can blame me and only me (...until Zaz logs on. ).

but he doesn't care to comment on it at all.

I'm not surprised, actually. I have that impact on people.

roflcopter is pressing for a lynch quite hard.

From what I understand, this is typical roflcopter stuff.

This does seem typical Mastin

Seem? Why the doubt? :/

but I'm not sure if I'll believe it this time around.

And why would that be, Kise?

No vote for either of you yet until I read more of your behaviors.

Right, so this seems like fence sitting to me.

And don't worry, Khan.

I don't think he's worried.

I won't kill ya.

Please tell me the wink by that thing was meant to indicate a joke.

[Hayker]

fence sitting
I am not familier with this term I'm going to guess it means waiting on a vote until it's easier to lynch a particular person.

[Mastin]

I...uhhh....ummmmmmmm......

What the hell just happened?

I logged on. You need not know more.

I know it's dumb of me to say this as it's a scum tell

Yes, that would be Xyl's confusion-->Scumtell, correct?

This is my first large game here on mafiascum.

Hopefully not your last.

Actually this is the largest mafia game I have played anywhere.

Where else have you played?

Do tell.

I want to see how experienced you are.

I don't know what it was I was expecting

Expect a fast-paced game. This happens even if I am not playing. Large games have many players, hence, more posts per day.

but I know that it wasn't this.

It happens. I'm not your normal MS.net player.

I find roflcopters constant strait up blaming Mastin being scum kinda scummy.

Again, from what I've heard, rofl tunnels a lot. I'll look into it to see if this is true, but I do see how many players can/will tunnel and wouldn't call it a tell of any kind.

Though I have to admit, I believe he brings up a few valid points.

Which I defend against, like any good player should, mind you.

@Kublai:I don't know for sure

Like I said...replacing into a game isn't the same as playing from the start.

It works differently.
It has different rules.

but perhaps his acting different is because that was a newbie game.

It has been a long time, yes, since that game, but it being a Newbie Game isn't the reason for the playstyle difference.

I can already tell how different newbie games are from large games in the first two pages.

Games I'm in aren't the best examples. Try to avoid games with my name mentioned when trying to determine something like that.

I'm gonna assume that rvs is over for a fact

To not recognize this fact would be a scum tell itself.

so I hope the complete and total randomness dies down a bit.

I might make a joke or two, sure, but I'm not planning on being random anymore. I've had my fun; time to scum hunt.

Though with Mastin around....

Yea...I'm Zwetschenwasser * 10 in many, many ways.

[Mastin]

This seems to be a fair definition of the term.
I'm kinda distracted at the moment, and I've always been known for my bad choice of words, so if anyone wants to give a better definition, feel free to do so.

[Kise]

@Hayker - The randomness never dies down until Mastin finds an opponent, and it just very well may be roflcopter. I can sense a bit of stubborn-tunneler looming.

I honestly am not sure if you're town this time around, Mastin. I noticed you don't get a mafia role a whole lot because the mods are smart (:p) knowing you always brings attention to yourself and always end up in the hot seat. My view on you leans more towards NOT being scum simply because of the attention you drew, but I'm always watching and waiting for those scumslips. I am using meta right now, because in the game you were scum, your posts were very distanced and not as rapid as whenever you're town.

Khan's Miller claim doesn't move me. I'd still vote for him if he acts scummy because I was in a game not long ago where the [Death] Miller was of neutral alignment and would have won the game before the town if all of the mafia were eradicated. So, Millers are still suspects IMO.

I can already tell roflcopter is an aggressive player, and a very serious one at that, despite his name. I don't favor any kind of persistent, just like in this case, where the aggressor doesn't seem to be open-minded enough to accept the possibility of someone's actions such as yours (Mastin) to be that of a pro-town player. Obviously, I'm quite familiar with your style by now, so I know what to expect. And besides that, it generally would not be a good idea for scum to put so many eyes on them during the start of a game, because if they got lynched on D1 and flipped mafia, they'd be jackasses for real..

Not much to say about fallenangel, since he's still in a RVS of his own, lol.

And for your 4th question: I think you're a blue digimon, is what I think. But more seriously, I think you'll bump heads with roflcopter for a bit and that will continue to be the focal point of D1. You two should ignore doing anything OMGUS because, in the event both of you are town, the mafia will just pick a side and play the parts of your supporters while attacker the other.

How can you say I'm fencesitting when I already made a vote?

[Kise]

Oh boy... I think I just gave Mastin more ammo for his next posts, lol. I bet it'll be a thick read.

OK, it's nearly 2:30 in the morning, so I'm logging off. I'll come back to play tomorrow.

Night. Try not to make 14 pages when I wake up.