Mini 793: Scrubs mafia- GAME OVER

[Brandi]

Then again, trying too hard is probably a good thing.^ So maybe Fishy is the most pro-town person here right now.

[hp [leaves]]

Then again, trying too hard is probably a good thing.^ So maybe Fishy is the most pro-town person here right now.

Trying too hard could also be a sign of scum paranoia so I'd label trying too hard a scumtell rather than a towntell.

[veerus]

vote: hp

for calling out a 4-player scum team in a 12-player mini. He must know something we don't..

[Fishythefish]

unvote, vote: hp

veerus provides the best reason for a vote so far. hp appears to have extra setup knowledge.

[hp [leaves]]

unvote, vote: hp

veerus provides the best reason for a vote so far. hp appears to have extra setup knowledge.

Is this vote serious?

[Fishythefish]

If by serious you mean "not entirely random", yes. The fact that you named 4 scum suggests you know there are 4 scum, as this is not a usual number for a setup of this size.

[hp [leaves]]

If by serious you mean "not entirely random", yes. The fact that you named 4 scum suggests you know there are 4 scum, as this is not a usual number for a setup of this size.

4 scum for this game is Xylbot's maximum. Now you also know. Happy?

[hp [leaves]]

<--- Has been refreshing every five seconds, hoping to see a new post.

[Furry]

If by serious you mean "not entirely random", yes. The fact that you named 4 scum suggests you know there are 4 scum, as this is not a usual number for a setup of this size.

4 scum for this game is Xylbot's maximum. Now you also know. Happy?

That doesnt answer why you brought up four scum. I have never seen that in a mini outside of a 8-2-2 setup.

[Maturin24]

@inHimshallibe: Are you sure you're not just looking too deeply into a random vote?

Although I don't really like the banter that Brandi and Furry had on the last page. And then the voting of inHim to defent Furry right away.

[Gorrad]

Look, here's the thing: If we accept that [hp] did, in fact, slip scum info, we'd also have to accept that there IS a four-person team, something that's already been brought up as highly unlikely.

[Brandi]

^Matur, it wasn't a defense of furry, it was I didn't like his reason. I don't really have much of an opinion of furry since I can't tell if a lot of his posts are just fluff or not. He says a lot, but I'm having trouble finding anything useful/helpful in the things that he says.

Anyway, eventually you will all learn that I am incredibly friendly in everything that I do >>

Anyway I don't know what to think of HP. That little 'slip up' isn't enough for a lynch, but should be kept in mind as we progress.

[Brandi]

Anyway I say Anyway a lot. Also, if there was 4 scum would that mean that they might not all be in one group? Maybe 2 groups of 2? Or is 4 in one just most likely?

[hp [leaves]]

Mod: V/LA until Thursday.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Yeah, but even if there's two scum groups with two people in each, they wouldn't likely know of each other's existance till one of the other group was lynched or killed. I don't have any idea what hp was driving at with his listing of four scum, maybe he was just trying to help his odds of being right?

[Dr. Perry Cox]

Votecount

2 Brandi

(Tzeentch, Slicey)

2 Furry

(Gorrad, inHimshallibe)

2 Fishythefish

(Debonair Danny DiPietro, Furry)

2 Slicey

(Maturin24, hp [leaves])

2 inHimshallibe

(BrianMcQueso, Brandi)

2 hp [leaves]

(veerus, Fishythefish)

Not voting:

[Flavor added to start of D1 post. Apologies for the delay.]

[Fishythefish]

Look, here's the thing: If we accept that [hp] did, in fact, slip scum info, we'd also have to accept that there IS a four-person team, something that's already been brought up as highly unlikely.

True. If it was a scumslip, that means we are in a situation that is possible, but unlikely. This lessens the chance that it was a slip.

@ hp: the fact that 4 scum is possible doesn't mean it would be the natural number to name.

[BrianMcQueso]

unvote, vote: Fishy

, for taking something so insignificant and driving it so hard. We don't have 4 scum and 8 town. You don't actually believe that, do you? And before you go all paranoid and claim that it means I have "information" or whatever, let me explain. 4 mafia 8 town means the town would lose the game after 2 mislynches, and we would need 4 correct lynches to win. That's what we call "imbalance". You're reading far too much into HP's post, and trying to squeeze a scumtell out of something that really is just random vote silly.

[Gorrad]

Anyway I don't know what to think of HP. That little 'slip up' isn't enough for a lynch, but should be kept in mind as we progress.

I do NOT like this.

Unvote, Vote: Brandi

[Fishythefish]

unvote, vote: Fishy

, for taking something so insignificant and driving it so hard. We don't have 4 scum and 8 town. You don't actually believe that, do you? And before you go all paranoid and claim that it means I have "information" or whatever, let me explain. 4 mafia 8 town means the town would lose the game after 2 mislynches, and we would need 4 correct lynches to win. That's what we call "imbalance". You're reading far too much into HP's post, and trying to squeeze a scumtell out of something that really is just random vote silly.

At this stage of the game, hardly anything has been said. Even if something is probably a coincidence, but possibly a scum slipping up, that's worthy of a vote. There is a possibility of four scum (as hp himself acknowledges)- imbalance in the numbers can be corrected by other factors. This means there is a chance, albeit a relatively small one, that hp slipped up as scum. I haven't expressed any huge degree of certainty, and I certainly don't think I have been "driving it so hard". I agreed with veerus' opinion, and that is about it.

Your analysis is also at odds with hp's own defense. hp backs up his naming of four scum with a claim that a 4 player scumteam is possible, and implies that his original post was made with this (to some extent) in mind; you dismiss the 4 player team as next to impossible, and say that hp's first post was random. You appear to be defending hp in a way that directly conflicts with his own explanation.

[Brandi]

Anyway I don't know what to think of HP. That little 'slip up' isn't enough for a lynch, but should be kept in mind as we progress.

I do NOT like this.

Unvote, Vote: Brandi

whats wrong with what I said? Maybe I don't like the letter G in your name. I should vote you for that.

[Furry]

Your analysis is also at odds with hp's own defense. hp backs up his naming of four scum with a claim that a 4 player scumteam is possible, and implies that his original post was made with this (to some extent) in mind; you dismiss the 4 player team as next to impossible, and say that hp's first post was random. You appear to be defending hp in a way that directly conflicts with his own explanation.

There really can not be a 4 person scum team in this game, even if you take into account that we are all working in a hospital, or at least trying to given what I remember from early seasons, 4 scum make little sense outside of nightless and 2-2-8 setups.

It doesnt matter to me that how one person explains the improbable doesnt match another person. Its like if you asked him why an orange cant fly and hp said gravity, then he said it doesnt have wings. Thats basically what is going on here. Also his first post was fairly obviously random

[Gorrad]

Anyway I don't know what to think of HP. That little 'slip up' isn't enough for a lynch, but should be kept in mind as we progress.

I do NOT like this.

Unvote, Vote: Brandi

whats wrong with what I said? Maybe I don't like the letter G in your name. I should vote you for that.

You're basically saying, straight up, that while you won't push any case against hp now, you're reserving something to use against him later. A perfect example of which is a scum needing a way to jump onto a wagon later in the game and pulling something from page 2. If you think he's scummy, there's certainly nothing better page 2 on which to base a vote, so vote him! Otherwise, let it go.

[inHimshallibe]

At Brandi: I'll admit it wasn't the strongest, but explain to me why my reasoning was "crappy."

unvote
vote: Fishy

I like this wagon better than Brandi's.

[Fishythefish]

It doesnt matter to me that how one person explains the improbable doesnt match another person. Its like if you asked him why an orange cant fly and hp said gravity, then he said it doesnt have wings. Thats basically what is going on here. Also his first post was fairly obviously random

Not a fair analogy. hp is explaining the situation by saying that a four person scumteam is possible, and so naming four scum in his first post made sense; Brian and you by saying the 4 person scumteam is impossible, so hp can't have meant his first post to imply one. If you explain that oranges can't fly because they have no wings, and I explain that they can't fly because they do have wings, there is something wrong.
hp's first post was obviously random in the sense that it named random players; whether the number named was random is the question here, and that is not obvious.