Mini 789 - 9p SODSMN Over

[Goatrevolt]

ok...lets

unvote

Why?

[Korts]

Vote Count 1.2

(2) crywolf- SensFan, CallMeLiam

(2) CallMeLiam- Goatrevolt, IH
(1) Goatrevolt- killa seven
(1) Stef- crywolf
(1) IH- Shadow Knight
(1) falkomagno- Stef

not voting:

falkomagno

five to lynch

Deadline: May 29, 6:00 PM EST

[killa seven]

ok...lets

unvote

Why?

Yea why man.. why?

[CallMeLiam]

I'm so dissapointed in you guys. I put someone at lynch minus 2. NOTHING HAPPENED.

unvote, vote:Liam

Because I haven't heard anything from you since your first post, unless you've posted afterwards and I haven't checked. I dunno, it's not worth rereading the first page at this point.

Well I try not to post much in the random dicking around phase of the game unless people address me directly.

K7 and Goat: Why is the unvote so suspicious to you?
K7: Did the question really need asking twice?

[Stef]

Well I try not to post much in the random dicking around phase of the game unless people address me directly.

Why is that?

Mod:

Not Voting: list should have falkomagno on it.

[IH]

Uh i think you put him at -3 and he want even the leading vote.

Thanks, that was Cay who I put at minus 2. Thanks for playing though!

ok...lets unvote

Discussion is stifled enough as it is. Why would you want to make it even more so? You weren't even VOTING, so I'm just going to guess you meant everyone.

unvote, vote:Falko

Well I try not to post much in the random dicking around phase of the game unless people address me directly.

K7 and Goat: Why is the unvote so suspicious to you?
K7: Did the question really need asking twice

Yeah, no problem, we'll get the game started with one less person? = |

[falkomagno]

ok...lets

unvote

Why?

Yea why man.. why?

Because I didn't see the worth of a random vote, I mean, it seems like it's something used to start suspicious from nothing real. At this point I prefer that my vote go for a better reason

[CallMeLiam]

Well I try not to post much in the random dicking around phase of the game unless people address me directly.

Why is that?

As town, anything I contribute is white noise and unhelpful, as scum anything I contribute is potentially gonna give me away so the less the merrier.

IH: Clearly we're into the actual game bit now, so it looks like I wasn't needed.

[Stef]

As town, anything I contribute is white noise and unhelpful, as scum anything I contribute is potentially gonna give me away so the less the merrier.

So:
- as town it doesn't hurt to talk, just isn't helpful.
- as mafia it's dangerous to talk.

And.. you chose to talk the least possible?

Also, you claim you can't contribute as town in the RVS?

[IH]

As town, anything I contribute is white noise and unhelpful, as scum anything I contribute is potentially gonna give me away so the less the merrier.

I personally disagree with this view, but whatev.

[SensFan]

Unvote, Vote: Liam

I don't play into people's game when they openly admit to playing anti-Town to help their Scumgame.

[IH]

That just sounds kinda silly.

Also, untrue.

[Goatrevolt]

K7 and Goat: Why is the unvote so suspicious to you?

He makes a random vote and then unvotes it with pretty much no content in between. I don't know if it's all that suspicious, but it does draw a "why" reaction out of me.

Well I try not to post much in the random dicking around phase of the game unless people address me directly.

I've played a game with you before. I'll have to dredge it up and see if this is consistent at all. I don't recall you saying anything of the sort.

Because I didn't see the worth of a random vote, I mean, it seems like it's something used to start suspicious from nothing real. At this point I prefer that my vote go for a better reason

So why random vote in the first place if you consider it to be useless?

As town, anything I contribute is white noise and unhelpful, as scum anything I contribute is potentially gonna give me away so the less the merrier.

Purely false. Maybe you are the worst scum hunter in the history of mafia and any contribution you make as town isn't going to help others find scum. However, it still helps others get a read on you. There is no downside to you contributing as town.

As mafia, though, sure, lurking is good for avoiding tripping up.

I don't play into people's game when they openly admit to playing anti-Town to help their Scumgame.

Did I miss something? I don't recall him admitting or even insinuating that he is playing this way to boost his scum game.

[SensFan]

As town, anything I contribute is white noise and unhelpful, as scum anything I contribute is potentially gonna give me away so the less the merrier.

I read this as: "As Town, I don't help. As Scum, I might be caught if I talk too much. Therefore, for the sake of not being caught as Scum, I don't talk much regardless of alignment."

[Stef]

Bandwagon time.

Unvote
Vote CallMeLiam

[falkomagno]

I think that it's scummier to not talk than talk. And that's apart of voting or not.

[IH]

So, I think we should go the falko route personally.

I read this as: "As Town, I don't help. As Scum, I might be caught if I talk too much. Therefore, for the sake of not being caught as Scum, I don't talk much regardless of alignment."

I don't understand why you're voting him then. I'm just gonna consider it null and not a tell, because I'm to lazy to metagame him. I think your case is kinda bullshit until you find some proof personally.

I also think that this is kind of distracting from Falko and his random request to unvote (while he didn't have his vote on anyone). At least Liam admits what he's doing and why. The only thing I can reasonable reason I can see Falko unvoting is to put in the appearance he's posting, without really posting.

So... yeah, I'm gonna stick with falko, who completely ignored the backlash of him unvoting.

[falkomagno]

....

I also think that this is kind of distracting from Falko and his random request to unvote (

while he didn't have his vote on anyone

). ...

BS. Look post 35. I voted for Stef in that post.

So... yeah, I'm gonna stick with falko, who completely ignored the backlash of him unvoting.

...I've explained why I unvote, so, one thing is that you consider that my explanation was insufficient, that's matter of opinion. Other, to say that I ignore the reactionS, when the only one who put so much pepper to a single

unvote

is you.

It seems like you are putting so much effort based on nothing.

FOS IH

[Goatrevolt]

falko, can you answer my question in 62?

[IH]

I see where you responded, and I think it's kind of a bad reason.

Also, I was apparently going off of a votecount which you posted afterwards.

[falkomagno]

falko, can you answer my question in 62?

the key word are

at this point

. I mean, I think that a random vote is harmless and can be funny , but I doubt that RVS is the best to take strong conclusions, or to unmask scum. if I voted, was a so random vote that means nothing, and I'm not willing to defend that kind of vote.

But suddenly I'm defending an

unvote

...weird

[IH]

So... your vote had NOWHERE to go, but off? You know your vote isn't permanent. I can see know real reason for you to unvote, other than to

A.Appear to be contributing
or
B.Withholding your vote on purpose

[falkomagno]

Choose whatever you want. If you want to build a case for an unvote, go for it.

You know what, I'm done with that

vote IH

[SensFan]

The OMGUS seals it for me.

Unvote, Vote: falko

[Shadow Knight]

unvote, vote falko

newbscum much?