Mini 749 - Antarctic Mafia [Game Over]


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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:30 am

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Personally, I think that Nuwen putting me in the middle of that.... graph thingy type thing-y... is an attempt to buddy! They intentionally made it blurry so that it was harder to see the facts!!!!!! Covering up the truth now, are we? EH?????



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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:55 am

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Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: It looks like you wrote down swear words in my name, why do you hate me Nuwen?
Through some terrible incontinuity in the fabric of space-time, your name grows infinitely longer around the hour of three AM.
freeko wrote:
vote : nuwen


You took more time to point out that I havent participated int he random stage than you did to draw that trainwreck of.. uhh I dont know what that is actually.
This is why I don't believe in pressure votes. There are plenty of ways to get players out of the woodwork without neutering the power of a vote by saying "not voting 4reals just pressurekk."
So high, so low, so many things to know.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:54 pm

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Nuwen wrote:
Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: It looks like you wrote down swear words in my name, why do you hate me Nuwen?
Through some terrible incontinuity in the fabric of space-time, your name grows infinitely longer around the hour of three AM.
But isn't "Debonair fuck long names" just as long as "Debonair Danny DiPietro"?

I'm not sure if Fishy is mocking me with meta or not.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:25 pm

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oh great, i'm playing with a bunch of retards. i don't know if you guys are joking or trying to piss me off. none of your votes have any sense behind them whatsoever, so i'll just disregard them. continuing on ..
Fishythefish wrote:The only question that remains, before we lynch this vile scum, is who his partner(s) are. One, I think, is obvious- ZEEnon. It has struck me throughout that these two players are very carefully and deliberately
completely avoiding ANY contact with one another
. Add this to the excellent points Drake has recently made against ZEEnon, and I think we have tomorrow's lynch.
i really hope this is sarcasm because this assumation has no meaning. i haven't interacted with ANYONE except DrakeTheFake and Mizz.Mafia as of yet. this game is starting to disgust me, i'm debating whether or not i should ask for a replacement.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:29 pm

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/un; !vote Zeenon


Because of the flatness of the internet, I have post 51 to be a tad defensive and does not appear to be continuing the joking manner of the game.

Also, your next three posts also seem to continue this trend of anxiousness which is, honestly, not very becoming of you. You last post paints a picture of someone who is irritated by the way the game is progressing and perhaps shows a bit of fear that you might be lynched off of joke votes? This shows a self preservation pattern that appears scummiest of all the play thus far.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:32 pm

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asking a question is defensive ?
wanting to get out of the random voting stage is scummy?
i'm not going to lie, i AM irritated.
people are voting me for senseless reasons.
if you had a bandwagon full of random votes,
would you not be uneasy? or maybe you'd just sit there and watch ...
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:39 pm

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JereIC wrote: But isn't "Debonair fuck long names" just as long as "Debonair Danny DiPietro"?
See above reference to a spacial wormhole. At three AM, it seemed much shorted and more satisfying.
ZEEnon wrote:oh great, i'm playing with a bunch of retards. i don't know if you guys are joking or trying to piss me off. none of your votes have any sense behind them whatsoever, so i'll just disregard them. continuing on ..
Welcome to the RVS. The purpose of placing random votes is to slowly transition from jest to just decorum. How else would you suggest an uninformed majority begin to seek out an informed minority?

Your over-reaction to obvious sarcasm stands out as panicky and self-concerned. Prematurely seizing
any
accusation to "get out of the random voting stage" is not necessarily scummy, but certainly illogical - your decision to make one random joke more weighty than another is either equally random, or an indication that you possess more information than you're revealing.

Do you believe you're in danger of being quick-lynched, with your current count at L-3?

RVS has once again succeeded.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:43 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:oh great, i'm playing with a bunch of retards. i don't know if you guys are joking or trying to piss me off.
Why not both :wink:?
Nuwen wrote:RVS has once again succeeded.
All hail.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:43 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:asking a question is defensive ?
wanting to get out of the random voting stage is scummy?
i'm not going to lie, i AM irritated.
people are voting me for senseless reasons.
if you had a bandwagon full of random votes,
would you not be uneasy? or maybe you'd just sit there and watch ...
Welcome to randomvoteland, the place (or the time) when votes are total nonsense! :wink:
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:51 pm

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I would like to make it completely clear to ZEEnon and JereIC that my last post was not intended to be taken seriously. I had not thought there would be confusion on this point.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:53 pm

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I'd sit there and watch personally, it will go elsewhere soon enough.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:00 pm

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wow o.o..

i come back from school and u guys are tallking like.. crazzie :P
lol~ its fine, just a fun vote//or.. what is this called? LOL T-T. its okay to feel irritated ZEEnon;;
how everyone is voting on you <=T

~~ guys its just a game >_< chill-axxx
what a strange first game though o.O <i thought this site would be boring. hehe>
but it'sokay (:
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:08 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:I would like to make it completely clear to ZEEnon and JereIC that my last post was not intended to be taken seriously. I had not thought there would be confusion on this point.
It's cool man, I figured you were kidding around and should have made that clearer in my post.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:48 pm

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Nuwen wrote:Welcome to the RVS. The purpose of placing random votes is to slowly transition from jest to just decorum. How else would you suggest an uninformed majority begin to seek out an informed minority?

Your over-reaction to obvious sarcasm stands out as panicky and self-concerned. Prematurely seizing
any
accusation to "get out of the random voting stage" is not necessarily scummy, but certainly illogical - your decision to make one random joke more weighty than another is either equally random, or an indication that you possess more information than you're revealing.

Do you believe you're in danger of being quick-lynched, with your current count at L-3?

RVS has once again succeeded.
"obvious sarcasm" you say? only scum benefit from 'randomly' voting .. because the can disquise their bandwagon votes quite easily.
i also asked a question, and then people starting saying it was supicious. also, i never said i was in danger. i stated that it is very suspcious for all my votes to be
random
. scum like to say that L-3 isn't a big deal so that it stays that way for longer, and more votes can pile on. i think you are definitely obvscum. one down, one or two more to go. you are right, RVS succeeded, in catching you that is .
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:49 pm

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by the way,
Unvote, Vote: Nuwen
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:35 pm

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ZEEnon wrote: "obvious sarcasm" you say? only scum benefit from 'randomly' voting .. because the can disquise their bandwagon votes quite easily.
i also asked a question, and then people starting saying it was supicious. also, i never said i was in danger. i stated that it is very suspcious for all my votes to be
random
. scum like to say that L-3 isn't a big deal so that it stays that way for longer, and more votes can pile on. i think you are definitely obvscum. one down, one or two more to go. you are right, RVS succeeded, in catching you that is .
And only scum create spurious reasons for a random vote not to be random, in order to react with an OMGUS.

DraketheFake's wagon also consisted of three random votes at the time of post 78, one of which happens to be yours. To you, do the other votes on Drake appear equally scummy as the votes on you? How do you explain choosing one random wagon over another equally-sized random wagon to focus on? As I said before, if you're not allowing pressure on you to cloud your judgement, you're either also acting at random or are selecting a wagon to pursue based on other information. Which is it?
ZEEnon wrote:only scum benefit from 'randomly' voting ..
So you think there is absolutely no reason to vote in the RVS as a pro-town player?
ZEEnon wrote:scum like to say that L-3 isn't a big deal so that it stays that way for longer, and more votes can pile on.
GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN WIFOM.

I'd still appreciate knowing whether you felt close to lynch territory, thanks. If you didn't believe you were in danger of being lynched, then why did a random wagon strike you as threatening and scummy?
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:29 pm

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zeenon wrote: oh great, i'm playing with a bunch of retards.
I resemble that remark. Or was it resent.. I cant remember. I am obviously retarded so it doesnt amtter I guess.

End sarcasm.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:50 pm

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Unvote


Vote: ZEEnon


Let's not be too hasty about this though, but I'm with Nuwen that ZEE's aneurysm about random votes is crazy suspicious. Especially when it happened he was sitting at L-4 at the time, well outside the range of a reasonable scum bandwagon, so let's see how he reacts at L-2 when the pressure is real and not just imagined.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:53 pm

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lynch away, i have nothing to hide .
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:50 pm

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... this game is getting scary o.o

such.. big words =X

-whispers- <its a game guys;; T-T>
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:53 pm

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after reading through the game, i've decided not to give up on this game. i will not need to be replaced as i'd like to finish this game until i am killed by Nuwen and his partners. get ready, it's time for ZEEnon's
EXPLANATION TIME
! the only interaction i've had with DraketheFake is me asking him a question about why he thought finding scum would be easy, which is an innocent question. there is NOTHING wrong about that. moving on, my next post asks him to explain why he thinks that i am mafia. if someone votes for you with a lack of reasoning, would you not ask them why they voted for you. or perhaps you would let their vote slide, viewing it as a minor misconception. next post of mine, i point out that one of his reasons for voting me is not logical because it is 'circle reasoning'. next he asks me if we are playing a questions only game, and i answer promptly, showing him a post of mine that was not in the form of a question, which he neglected to see. then he tries to get a claim out of me very early on in the game. my post says that i will not reveal who i am to him. my next post shows my irritation to all of your digustingly horrible reasoning for ALL of your votes. i understand that during the random voting stage, you are doing just that, random voting. but do any of you ever think that perhaps, you might.. oh i don't know, be helping the mafia come closer to their goal? they can easily hop on the wagon, and if they EVER HAVE TO JUSTIFY their actions, they can say that it was RANDOM, and that they were following everyone else. nobody can view that as suspicious, since the other people that voted me all contributed to the fact. that is my PBPA. (post-by-post-analysis)

FURTHERMORE, later on Nuwen comes back after giving little reasoning besides his little penguin picture to start listing things already posted by others. if someone votes me at the beginning with no justification, of course i am going to question their judgement. whether town or mafia is voted for, i'm sure either of them would ask you why you voted for them. if i were to vote you, the reader, right now for no reason at all, would you ignore it ? i clearly have no reason to do so, and IF it was ME that did that, it would be easily seen as trying to pass the blame or heat to someone else. Nuwen also exaggerates my intial post by saying that i was making one random vote 'more weighty than another'. of course it is more weighty to me, since it's on ME. are you blind? why would it not be more weighty to me? and i was not even treating it as more weighty anyways. i was clearly asking DraketheFake to explain why he did so, but he responded with some silly statement. later on, he makes some forum outside of the game to see what people that react to the RVS tend to be usually, town or mafia. that is just horrible in my eyes. i view him as a misguided townsperson right now, because sadly, i don't pick up any vibes off him. Nuwen, however, i am positive is scum. i swear, if some retarded newbies come and hammer me, check him out. it's so obvious, i can't even describe to you. also Nuwen, i did not react to you with an OMGUS. you voted me far early in the game, so i am OBVIOUSLY not voting you for the sole reason that you voted me. about DrakeTheFake's random votes, they are yes, random. but they do not have any explanation whatsoever. the votes on ME, however, have explanations although not being sensible ones. in the second part of your post in post 90, i find yet another scumtell from you. you manipulate my words, changing them to say what you want. no where do i say that there is absolutely no reason to vote in the RVS as a pro-town player. i said that scum benefit from random voting, i didn't say that town-aligned players shouldn't participate. it helps us find possible scum as well. for part three in post 90, i see not point to that first sentence besides to distract my eyes, so i'll ignore it. anyways, i never said anything about being close to lynch territory, i just stated that the reasons for voting me were unjustified. i apologize for having you all read this block of text, i'm just venting off my feelings on the game so far. Nuwen for Mafia. it's going to be a little harder to find the other(s) though . (this summary is by no means trying to get everyone to convert to my views. if you agree with what i have said, you agree. if you don't you can lynch me, but know that Nuwen is DEFINITE scum after i flip penguin)
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:55 pm

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sorry i didn't include anything on Mizz.Mafia since i was busy writing my post and i did not see her post, but so far she hasn't contributed to anything in the game besides her random vote. she also happens to be voting for the same person Nuwen is, me. i wouldn't be surprised if both Nuwen && Mizz.Mafia were partners. that's scum match #1 for me.
FOS: Mizz.Mafia
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:37 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:later on, he makes some forum outside of the game to see what people that react to the RVS tend to be usually, town or mafia.
Yeah this was
bad
awful timing on my part, though of course you are the inspiration. But don't worry, I've been playing Mafia long enough to form my own opinion. You just got me thinking about something I felt like discussing over there, is all.

But yeah admittedly it looks like I'm a retard. You'll just have to take my word that my opinion on you came not from that thread but rather from the fact that I've been playing Mafia for years.
ZEEnon wrote:i find yet another scumtell from you. you manipulate my words, changing them to say what you want. no where do i say that there is absolutely no reason to vote in the RVS as a pro-town player. i said that scum benefit from random voting, i didn't say that town-aligned players shouldn't participate.


To be fair, you saying "only scum benefit from voting during the random voting stage" is A. Ridiculous, and B. Not really that far logically from "townies shouldn't vote during the random voting stage" (because good townies shouldn't do things that only benefit scum, natch).

I think there's a pretty high chance that both you and Nuwen are townies, and I find your declaration that Nuwen is "definitely" scum if you flip townie to be misguided and incredibly naive.

Actually, come to think of it, this next bit:
ZEEnon wrote:(this summary is by no means trying to get everyone to convert to my views. if you agree with what i have said, you agree. if you don't you can lynch me, but know that Nuwen is DEFINITE scum
after i flip penguin)
Seems like a slip, because for all intents and purposes
I
was under the impression that the Mafia would also be penguins. You seem to imply knowledge that they aren't penguins, which would be unfortunate for you, but I think I may have started it by calling everybody "gentlepenguins" so I'll let it go for now.

On the other hand:
DDD wrote:
Unvote

Vote: ZEEnon


Let's not be too hasty about this though, but I'm with Nuwen that ZEE's aneurysm about random votes is crazy suspicious. Especially when it happened he was sitting at L-4 at the time, well outside the range of a reasonable scum bandwagon,
so let's see how he reacts at L-2 when the pressure is real and not just imagined.
This is a
textbook[/b] scum-hop. Like, I think I may have read this exact post elsewhere. ZEE's "aneurysm" about random votes is not "crazy" suspicious; it's at most mildly suspicious, and in the case where the target becomes hyper defensive and starts posting blocks of text I think it's probably more likely a flustered townie. The part I bolded is particularly troublesome, because it implies some illusory connection between the way someone acts under pressure and the number of votes they have on them. You already know how ZEEnon is going to react under pressure: he flipped out when there were three obvious joke votes and almost gave up on the game. If you find it suspicious, you find it suspicious, but your referendum about how it's a "pressure vote" combined with your comically overblown emotional language make it far more likely to me that you're scum that ZEEnon is.

Unvote, Vote: Debonair Danny DiPietro


(Even if most penguins are quite dashing.)
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:48 pm

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Just trying to find my way back home, the old me is dead and gone…dead and gone..

ZEEnon - 4 (Nuwen, Mizz.Mafia, Light-kun, Debonair Danny DiPietro)
Nuwen - 3 (Amished, freeko, ZEEnon)
Fishythefish - 2 (JereIC, pacman281292)
DraketheFake - 1 (na85)
na85 - 1 (Fishythefish)
Debonair Danny DiPietro - 1 (DraketheFake)

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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:42 pm

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=O ok, im not good with big words, but here i go <im trying d=>

how do you quote things? ok well .. ZEEnon said;;
ZEEnon wrote:sorry i didn't include anything on Mizz.Mafia since i was busy writing my post and i did not see her post, but so far she hasn't contributed to anything in the game besides her random vote. she also happens to be voting for the same person Nuwen is, me. i wouldn't be surprised if both Nuwen && Mizz.Mafia were partners. that's scum match #1 for me. FOS: Mizz.Mafia "

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random vote? why? because isnt this just a first vote.. umm randomness thingie? where you go crazzie and voting randomly :P haha. and i havent "contributed" anything during this game because, i whatsoever have no clue what you guys are talking about. im confuzzled T-T... such big words >_<
++ everyone has a reason of why they vote. i voted because u voted for me first, and it was just kept that way. mmkay ;] and nuwen also has his own reasons for why he voted for you <=T ... so dont assume that me and nuwen are mafia scums just because we voted on YOU.

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