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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:11 am

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The reason for my Korts vote was based on his immediate reaction to Rogue's choosing of our path.
Personally, I don't think a mafia member would be dumb enough to choose our path - putting himself in the spotlight right off the bat.




Mod-Edit Votecount 1-2

Rogue Shenanigans - 2 (Korts, freeko)
Korts - 2 (Rogue Shenanigans, Prom King)
BSG - 2 (Kiro, Occam)
Occam - 1 (BSG)
MonkeyMan - 1 (Raider)
Prom King - 1 (MonkeyMan)
Lunar Tick - 1 (Rhinox)

Not Voting - Spambot, Lunar_Tick

With 12 left, 7 to lynch.

Note - Still waiting on Spambot. He's picked up his PM, but hasn't posted. Prod coming with next votecount.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:22 am

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Prom King wrote:The reason for my Korts vote was based on his immediate reaction to Rogue's choosing of our path.
Personally, I don't think a mafia member would be dumb enough to choose our path - putting himself in the spotlight right off the bat.
It wasn't a serious vote. First votes usually aren't. And I wanted to make mine game-related. Any reason you thought it was serious?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:24 am

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EBWOP: also, why would it be "dumb" for mafia to put themselves in the spotlight? For that matter, why would it be dumb for them to choose our path? For all we know, they might have surplus information concerning the particular paths.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:34 am

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My path chosing is a total null tell in every respect. The mod himself stated its lack of importance. I mearly saw the game had started first.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:58 am

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freek wrote: Points A and B that are made here are WIFOM?
Yes. It's become theory discussion at this point.
korts wrote: BSG however does have a point about Occam voting him only after he found some support in raider and me.
Huh.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:03 pm

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Rogue Shenanigans wrote:My path chosing is a total null tell in every respect. The mod himself stated its lack of importance. I mearly saw the game had started first.
Who are you defending yourself against? Was anyone seriously debating whether you were scummy for making that choice?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:08 pm

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Was answering Prom King. Was defending his idea that I am more likley town... which I dont think is a healthy approach.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:13 pm

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Okay. I thought you misinterpreted me as attacking you.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:32 pm

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Unvote:

Vote: LunarTick


He seems to be admitting that he made his choice knowingly without consulting anyone else. It's one thing to say you didn't know that his vote would be final, it's another to say that you know and deliberatly left others out of the discussion.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:23 pm

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@Monkeyman: You seem to be confusing me with Rogue Shenanigans. Maybe.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:54 pm

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Lunar_Tick wrote:@Monkeyman: You seem to be confusing me with Rogue Shenanigans. Maybe.
I'm sorry I mispoke. Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:58 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Lunar_Tick wrote:@Monkeyman: You seem to be confusing me with Rogue Shenanigans. Maybe.
I'm sorry I mispoke. Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
As the mod clearly stated, the choice had pretty much no bearing on the game.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:54 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Lunar_Tick wrote:@Monkeyman: Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
Your whole post and vote assumes that the choice has any kind of bearing on the game. You are very far from being sure of your claims, at least not close enough to make any kind of conclusion and subsequently vote on it. And if you are sure of your claims (and it seems that you are), then you are highly suspicious.

Also I don't like the way you use the word "tactics" in your post, when there was clearly no under-hand mafia scheme but rather a random choice.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:31 am

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Again A
Both go together. When you didn't know the rule yet, you started to specualte about a role which could exist in that set-up. So explain to me how talking about a possible role in that set-up would have helped us in that set-up?

B again
Ppl can cycle :roll: Of course they are intending to do harm to the environment. Why do you otherwise think that the penguin is forcing me to do stuff I don't want to do ;)?
And to me it stays suspicious. An example won't change my mind about that.

Last, C
Only that in that HOUR, two other players posted in which both said that they didn't agree with me. That gives the impression that you only wanted to vote after you saw that others agreed with a reason to vote. But further it's fine.

FoS Prom King
for that circular argument made in post 50.

MM can you please understand what you're saying in posts 58 and 60, because I have no idea what you're meaning.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:00 am

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So explain to me how talking about a possible role in that set-up would have helped us in that set-up?
It wouldn't have. Like I said it was an offhand comment that I made before I realized that that role didn't make any sense anyways.
Why do you otherwise think that the penguin is forcing me to do stuff I don't want to do?
Ha I was going to ask you what that avatar was about.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:49 am

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Lunar_Tick wrote:
MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Lunar_Tick wrote:@Monkeyman: Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
Your whole post and vote assumes that the choice has any kind of bearing on the game. You are very far from being sure of your claims, at least not close enough to make any kind of conclusion and subsequently vote on it. And if you are sure of your claims (and it seems that you are), then you are highly suspicious.

Also I don't like the way you use the word "tactics" in your post, when there was clearly no under-hand mafia scheme but rather a random choice.
You're not in a position to say what I'm able to come to a conclusion on and vote for. All I need to vote is to think that you are more guilty than anyone else. And I clearly do. The only way you could know if there was a scheme or if it was random choice is if you were scum, a townie would not know the difference.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:56 am

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:The only way you could know if there was a scheme or if it was random choice is if you were scum, a townie would not know the difference.
Or maybe the mod told me. :P
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:58 am

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unvote,vote:Lunar_Tick


We can lynch korts-scum tommorow. <3
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:47 am

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I can join a Lunar wagon.

unvote, vote: Lunar_Tick


However, I would still like Prom King to answer my questions when he's on.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:36 am

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BSG wrote:
FoS Prom King
for that circular argument made in post 50.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:38 am

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MM wrote: I'm sorry I mispoke. Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
This post (60) deserves and
FoS: MM
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He finds out he confused RS and Lunar - but then says "oh, but defending RS is worse that what RS did". So essentially his reason changed - but why wasn't his vote on Lunar for defending, instead of mistakenly on Lunar for what RS did?
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:47 am

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Prom King wrote:The reason for my Korts vote was based on his immediate reaction to Rogue's choosing of our path.
Personally, I don't think a mafia member would be dumb enough to choose our path - putting himself in the spotlight right off the bat.
So please explain why you voted me PK.
And I'd suggest that you look at post 68, the post directly above your last post.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:52 am

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Prom King, I asked you to answer my questions just one post before yours. Why ignore me? Also, what is scummy about BSG calling you out on a fallacy?
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:25 am

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Rogue Shenanigans wrote:
unvote,vote:Lunar_Tick


We can lynch korts-scum tommorow. <3
It there more of a reason for your vote then post 66?

Any reason for thinking korts is scum?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:26 am

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raider8169 wrote:
Rogue Shenanigans wrote:
unvote,vote:Lunar_Tick


We can lynch korts-scum tommorow. <3
It there more of a reason for your vote then post 66?

Any reason for thinking korts is scum?
Yes... there is. Enough of a bad read to be a place to take off my random korts vote.

No reason to think Korts is scum, my little love heart was a way of showing I was joking...

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