Mini 727 - Mafia in Standardville - Game Over

LlamaFluff · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:31 am

Vote Count

Not Voting (5) - Tubby216, Freeko, Lowell, Charter, Master Ruck

charter · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:17 am

Well, I think it's Lowell. Lowell, you're scum, any last words before we lynch you?

What I don't understand is how the fuck darox got killed. Anyone think there is four mafia in this game maybe? If so today is LYLO...

Master Ruck · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:46 am

Maybe they figured out he was using his fake claim as a ruse to not be targetted. I think you hiding behind him was the tipoff as you should have been killed when attempting to hide behind him. As far as I can tell, your power immunity only works when you successfully hide behind someone and a PGO should kill anyone who attempts to target him.

Lowell · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:11 pm

charter, you're doing so well! Don't blow it by lynching the wrong guy.

freeko · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:18 pm

Master Ruck wrote: Vanillas tend to not have any night actions.

But a scum who is fake claiming vanilla would have a night action wouldnt they? My thought process could be that there is another liar. The only one other than lowell that I cannot account for would be tubby. Who , if still alive, would be the next target to track. Unless...

I could see plausibility in Lowell being a goon. If danchofan did the kill when I tracked Lowell N2, then that could explain why I got nothing when I tracked Lowell. I know its a theoretical situation but thats about the best I can put things together.

Master Ruck · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:25 pm

The thought process is sound, yes, I was just affirming that I have no night action because I'm a vanilla. You could be right about Lowell too, but sadly it's still just theory and nothing concrete. Should Charter say who he confirmed so that townie can narrow down our search? I can see pros and cons to this so I'm not sure if we should.

charter · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:48 pm

GOT IT

Ok, question for everyone. Do you think that I am scum or town? Once everyone answers I will reveal the gamebreaking strategy for town to win.

tubby216 · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:02 pm

i say charter is town

Master Ruck · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:00 am

I'd say town as well.

freeko · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:27 am

Do you think that I am scum or town?

You caught panzer and dan in consecutive days. I think you are town since your claim holds up against my information on tracking you. I dont see any reason to doubt you now.

As an aside, I must go on another V/LA due to work related circumstances that should last no longer than until this weekend. I will try to play when I get the chance. I cannot guarantee anything for the time being though.

Lowell · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:35 am

chater is supertown.

charter · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:38 am

Ok, we will see which one of you changes after I reveal a plan resulting in guarenteed town win later today. I'll give you some time to sweat about it and plan your squirming.

Lowell · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:49 am

charter wrote:Ok, we will see which one of you changes after I reveal a plan resulting in guarenteed town win later today. I'll give you some time to sweat about it and plan your squirming.

I reserve the right to change my mind if your plan is retarded.

charter · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:08 am

Anyone else want to back out too?

Lowell · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:54 am

I know, let's all sit around talking about charter more.

C'mon, out with it so I can lynch someone.

Master Ruck · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:04 am

I'm staying put.

tubby216 · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:57 am

i'm game

charter · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:02 am

Ok, well, here was my plan. This is from my point of view.
I am town.
tubby is town.
That means it's two out freeko, MR, Lowell. Now, it makes zero sense to lynch MR before freeko.

At first I was going to suggest lynching Lowell first, then freeko if Lowell flips town. Lowell has been far scummier I think.

However, I've been thinking, if freeko is lying, and we lynch him first and he flips scum, and the game isn't over, then I'm not really sure what to do. He could be protecting MR, or he could be setting him up. After saying this, tubby is 100% going to be NK'ed tonight.

So, I want opinions on whether we should lynch Lowell first, or freeko first, and why you want to go about doing this. Also, if you're freeko or Lowell, you need to say what will give the town the best chance of winning, even if that means lynching you first.

I'm pretty sure there is a "best" course of action in terms of who we lynch today, so just want to see if anyone else see's it the same as me. I think it's lynch freeko (though I would normally want Lowell, I'm just pretty much sure that lynching freeko will result in a guarenteed win) then if he flips town, lynch Lowell. Thoughts?

tubby216 · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:50 am

no you are talking yourself out of it,, we lynch lowell first,

it makes sense, no granted panzer did out him as scum but to me it would makes sense that panzer would out just one of his partners and point a finger at a townie hoping we would lynch the townie first there by proving lowell's innocence, so i say yah lynch lowell

vote: lowell

charter · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:18 am

tubby, what is wrong with lynching Lowell tomorrow if we lynch freeko today and he turns town?

Lowell · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:53 am

wait. THAT's the brilliant plan?

people need to pay more attention. Here's why that plan doens't work.

IT'S RETARDED. If there's two scum left than it DOES matter the order we try to lynch.

FTR, I believe there's only one scum remaining. I believe charter so that leaves freeko and MR. More likely to be MR in my opinon, as he's the one being so eager to curry town-favor lately.

FOS MR

charter · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:57 am

Well, lowell is scum. To hell with the plan.

vote Lowell

SUSPECTING MR BEFORE FREEKO IS IMPOSSIBLE. Freeko says MR didn't perform an action last night. MR could have made a kill, but then freeko would know and is lying about it. Or, freeko could have made a kill and is lying anyway.

So yeah, it's probably lowell because if he was town he would have thought of that.

Lowell · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:55 am

Oh, I forgot about that.

And you're wrong, if I were

scum

I would have remembered that. Town is far more likely to be careless. Take your vote off.

Lowell · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:57 am

I'll

vote freeko

freeko · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:25 am

Hell why not. I have more reason to think your vanilla claim is a fake. If you had anything to counter my claim on the other hand, then I wouldnt mind being lynched to guarantee a win. The problem I see is that a policy lynch on me doesnt guarantee a win, especially if someone flips town at this point. If there are 2 scum then the game is over. It could in fact guarantee a loss.

The only other scenario is that someone is blocking the possoible SK in tubby and the roles are 3-1-1. Even that doesnt bode well for the town if you remove a town player on the lynch. My plan would be to lynch tubby and remove the possible SK. If you are going to lynch anyone today just on suspicion, shouldnt you be lynching someone who at least has a chance to flip scum? I think lynching me is as absurd as lynching MR at this point.