like, you acknowledge he gave seeempty a town read with little real interaction and was quick to diffuse any signs of trouble there............... but you think that's indicative of scum buddying town.ctd wrote:In contrast, he had SeeEmpty as a top town read for practically the whole game, didn't interact at all with him and went out of his way to defend him at a point where he was no where near under the threat of lynch (not that he ever really was until today), and that all looks like buddying a townie who wasn't really problematic in terms of reads
Just for the sake of completeness, who do you think is scum if I'm town?In post 976, zMuffinMan wrote:what about my play looks like i "just want to make it into tomorrow"? i don't even think there's going to be a tomorrow if seeempty is lynched, but even if by some miracle he's actually town, what good would it do a hypothetical scum-me to play like this?
This is actually funny.In post 976, zMuffinMan wrote:...what good would it do a hypothetical scum-me to play like this?
the phrasing of this question makes me all the more certain you're scumseeempty wrote:who do you think is scum if I'm town?
what good would it do? everyone thinks it's between me and you, if i were scum, what use would it be to survive today when i would clearly just be lynched tomorrow (if not vig killed tonight)seeempty wrote:"What good would it do if scum survive another day?"
Like I said, we can afford another mislynch. If you're very sure that it is {SeeEmpty - zMuffinMan} scum, and if I'm lynched today, then you can vote zMuffinMan tomorrow and never look back.In post 974, singersigner wrote:I am definitely not great at interpreting things, but think I do a pretty good job at pointing out things I should know mean something, lol. In any case, I felt like having one scum as town/ish and one scum as scum/ish is a pretty standard reads list from scum. That's why I felt gut that SeeEmpty could be scum.
Scum level confidence.In post 982, zMuffinMan wrote:the phrasing of this question makes me all the more certain you're scum
i'm not second-guessing myself today
In post 982, zMuffinMan wrote:what good would it do? everyone thinks it's between me and you, if i were scum, what use would it be to survive today when i would clearly just be lynched tomorrow (if not vig killed tonight)
Yes, my whole play around this game reaching a tomorrow, but withIn post 984, zMuffinMan wrote:like you're planning your whole play around this game reaching a tomorrow, which shows you know i'm not scum
posts like 979 are preparation for a tomorrow that you really shouldn't think will be coming if you genuinely think i'm scum like all your posts suggest
(inb4 CTD comes in here and call that town-motivated)
yes, yes, it's funny how cheeky you think you can beseeempty wrote:Scum level confidence
right. statements like this completely contradict the seeds you're sowing in 979seeempty wrote:You, being the last scum, will definitely want to survive as long as possible, and get the possibility to manipulate the town to your win.
. . . . .seeempty wrote:Post #979 is me trying to get the remaining town to make up their mind on their read.
this is not you trying to get town to make up their mind, it's you laying the groundwork for future suspicionseeempty wrote:The fact that he is actively posting in other games while ignoring this one concerns me about his absent today.
words like "concerning" and "worrisome" are not something you say to someone you want to make up their mind, they're the words of someone again laying the groundwork for future suspicionseeempty wrote:singersigner's has yet to come up with her top 2 scum picks, which is also most concerning. The fact that there is no alternative scum pick to prepare for the possibility of a mislynch is worrisome.
Of course I'm planing ahead. I know I'll probably be lynched today, I know that will be a mislynch, and I'm sure you're scum. I'm concerned and worried that these 2 new joiners will lose the game for town, when now they're showing lack of interest or ignorant to the current state of game. I don't see how that is laying the groundwork for future suspicion.In post 989, zMuffinMan wrote:words like "concerning" and "worrisome" are not something you say to someone you want to make up their mind, they're the words of someone again laying the groundwork for future suspicion
you're not playing like you think my lynch will end the game, you're planning ahead
You're the one contradicting yourself. I'm so confident that you're scum, that if you're lynched, there will be no tomorrow, so "undermine the players who are going to be around with you tomorrow" will never happen.In post 987, zMuffinMan wrote:you sound so confident that i'm scum here, but you write things to undermine the players who are going to be around with you tomorrow, so that you can go back to them and say, "oh, hey, guess it's one of them because of all the scummy stuff they were doing yesterday!"
btw, again, this is not what a town player saysseeempty wrote:If it is a mislynch
yes, now you're doing it, after i ruined your attempts at sowing seeds of suspicion elsewhere. it's a valiant effort, i probably would have just given up already if i were in your shoes.seeempty wrote: so "undermine the players who are going to be around with you tomorrow" will never happen.
I'm preparing for my lynch. If anyone failed to see that, I have nothing else to say.
That would work too if all of Not_Mafia, singersigner and CTD agrees with that. The decision shouldn't be from CTD alone.In post 992, zMuffinMan wrote:the simpler solution is to ask CTD to vig me if you were magically town
Quoting out of context. Not even sure what you're getting at. This is beyond pointless.
The "sowing seeds of suspicion" idea again. I have no more comment on that. I'll just see what other thinks.In post 993, zMuffinMan wrote:yes, now you're doing it, after i ruined your attempts at sowing seeds of suspicion elsewhere. it's a valiant effort, i probably would have just given up already if i were in your shoes.
Really not sure what you're trying to get from this. Pointless posts one after another.In post 993, zMuffinMan wrote:and if you do manage to lynch me today, i'll bet good money you'll be in thread right after the night deadline ends making promises that you're really not scum and it must have been one of the lesser active players all along!
no?seeempty wrote:Quoting out of context
right. so what you said in 990 is for if you're lynched, but if i'm lynched, people shouldn't auto-vote you tomorrow and allow you time to look at other slots?seeempty wrote:If you're lynch today and you're "magically town", I would definitely look at the remaining slots, especially my second top scum pick, singersigner's slot.
what options am i leaving myself with? i literally said no one makes sense as scum but youseeempty wrote:You're leaving yourself with options for later
Oh my going into English now are we?In post 996, zMuffinMan wrote:no?
if you were town, you wouldn't be saying "ifi'm a mislynch" - you'd know you were a mislynch
thus a poor attempt
You're so desperate that you're nitpicking every small things and calling them scummy. I'm amused by your even poorer attempt.In post 990, SeeEmpty wrote:IfCTD, Not_Mafia and singersigner all agree that it is {SeeEmpty - zMuffinMan} scum, and you all have a stronger scum read on me, go ahead and lynch me.If I'm scum, town wins.If it is a mislynch,make sure your first post tomorrow is a VOTE: zMuffinMan post. No discussion.
I started to doubt if you're even thinking logically.In post 996, zMuffinMan wrote:right. so what you said in 990 is for if you're lynched, but if i'm lynched, people shouldn't auto-vote you tomorrow and allow you time to look at other slots?
jesus christ you're so obviously scum
"no one makes sense as scum" ≠ "no one else is scum".In post 997, zMuffinMan wrote:what options am i leaving myself with? i literally said no one makes sense as scum but you
yeah, wow. lots of options for me there.