Sorry I really meant to do the ISO tonight but I forgot. I'll be around in the morning but I gotta sleep, work in 7 hours... I'll do it sometime when I'm at work.
In post 208, Mac wrote:Johnny - if it helps, Varsoon being scum means you are likely town. I think scum were scared of your grip on the game so early on and tried to drive it away from your grasp.
If that makes sense.
Townreads Johnny because Varsoon is town... seems a bit odd to me.
In post 235, Mac wrote:Well apparently he agrees with my feelings about Varsoon but says there are things about him that reads town; he also asks me about bubba/rmp which could be seen as an attempt to derail me from my case on Varsoon. Still waiting for these things that read town.
Page topper is ridiculous, Varsoon has to go. don could be his friend too. Either way: I'm certain Varsoon shot YYR.
Claims that he had a 'case' on Varsoon when he really didn't say much about him.
Okay so this on top of the fact that he was actually pushing on all of the townies now makes me comfortable with this lynch.
This was one ISO that really helped me, even though there wasn't a whole lot of information, looking at only what he has said makes him seem scumm.
However I still think Johnny is scum with Mac.
It's lylo so I'm not willing to put Mac at L-1 until we all agree.
I really dislike that my first reaction is "Mac and HD are both scum"
Lets look at a few lists
First, "town slip" list.
1) rmp (called D1 vig a lynch)
2) Pasch (forgot there was a vig)
3) Rach (done a few ones) - note im REALLY hesitant to let this one slip, ive bought her a few days when she legit did this as a scumpartner before
Any others? I don't think there have been
That leaves:
Mac, HD, JF
So I would bet two of them scum just on odds. As weird as it sounds, scum is less likely to make those setup mistake comments. Chances are decent (enough) that one scum actually screwed something like that up.
Now, here is who I don't think can possibly be the vig:
1) rmp - the immediate comment sounded town
2) Pasch - same thing, I don't see scum faking these comments
3) JF - YYR was calling him town and sheeping him, why put out that kill
List jumps to HD, Mac, Rach
Side note, if JF is scum no more than one of rmp and HD are scum.
I still really think both Mac and HD are scum though.
Depending on whos town its not something to discount. If rmp and Pasch are town its a really good move. Even if one is town its not something to really be taken lightly because the pool that is being looked at is small to start.
The oddness of it and how it came entirely from left field just give me that "planned bus" twinge.
That and how the O/U is probably 2.5 on scum in Mac/HD/JF/RM
Biggest problem I have with the pairing that Mac is pushing is that it would require ALL scum to have been on the D1 and D2 wagon.
Really big hangup I have here? HD being town (still think rmp was town) means that all scum HAD to have been on the D1 wagon. Which is pretty odd, especially in a vengeful game where at least one will try and stay on the good side of the lynchee.
Going to read the end of D1 again coming up.
I would love to see Rach cast the next vote. rmp (since they are scum probably win regardless) gets to hold hers for a bit.
Really confused still that my first instinct is "this is a double bus". Really if rmp is town (and knowing im town) its exactly what I would recommend unless there is an easy mislynch.
@Mac - Why a HD vote? That one just seems to not fit how you had been playing the game up to this point.
