The Reckoning II: Invitational - BLOODY CONCLUSION!


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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:48 pm

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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:58 pm

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In post 945, Nuwen wrote:When I asked for a massclaim it was necessary to lock down the game. Since hohum just scum slipped by specifically looking for doctor/protective roles, massclaim is no longer necessary.

We know that there's a role that protects from a kill in the setup because of the adorkable kill mistake, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:00 pm

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Prodded. We still need to be lynching nuwen here.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:04 pm

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In post 946, nhammen wrote:although I would like to know what in your post led him to see a Doc claim. I already asked him, once...


In post 928, Nuwen wrote:the only thing that threatens him as an SK is my vest.


This. It's thin but I was hoping that Nuwen was the one doing all the saving. I wanted her to confirm my original town read. But instead what I got was an OMGUS vote, so v0v.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:06 pm

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She still hasn't claimed I see.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:09 pm

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/inb4 "OMGOMG CONVINCE ME TELL SPERGSPERGSPERG"
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:39 am

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Nuwen, can you continue the massclaim?
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:49 am

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In post 951, Axxle wrote:
In post 945, Nuwen wrote:When I asked for a massclaim it was necessary to lock down the game. Since hohum just scum slipped by specifically looking for doctor/protective roles, massclaim is no longer necessary.

We know that there's a role that
protects
from a kill in the setup because of the adorkable kill mistake, so I don't know what you're talking about.

In post 929, hohum wrote:Dayviging SK?

No.

Is that a
doc softclaim
from you nuwen?


Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to why the SK candidate and the scum-slipper are searching specifically for a
doctor
or
protective
role? The mod only confirmed that Adorkable should have died - not that it was protected. The language used by both Axxle and hohum is more specific than the moderator's and this is not a coincidence or common mistake.

Someone without perfect/additional info should be considering the presence of a roleblocker (town or otherwise), or any of DOZENS of roles that could interact with a kill in some way. The fact that both of these shooter candidates are immediately doc/protector-hunting should give us a clue: scum controlled the roleblocker (and still do? Maybe it's dead, no flips), which is why hohum slipped and said DOCTOR instead of vaguer language.

I think it was Yosarian who famously quoted "Players subconsciously always tell something about their role or motivation." He is correct. We need to be lynching hohum today.

In post 953, hohum wrote:
In post 946, nhammen wrote:although I would like to know what in your post led him to see a Doc claim. I already asked him, once...


In post 928, Nuwen wrote:the only thing that threatens him as an SK is my vest.


This.
It's thin but I was hoping that Nuwen was the one doing all the saving.
I wanted her to confirm my original town read. But instead what I got was an OMGUS vote, so v0v.


This doesn't even make sense. Hohum basically says: "I think there's a doctor in the game (
FOR WHATEVER REASON
), I think it's Nuwen, I think Nuwen is town, but if Nuwen doesn't claim doctor she is no longer town?" That isn't a sequence that logically follows for a town mine. That sequence DOES make sense as a scum realization that he can't shoot a protective role and needs to instead desperately try to lynch it.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:22 am

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If it was a roleblocker they would have come out and said who they blocked as soon as adork died.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:38 pm

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In post 953, hohum wrote:It's thin but I was hoping that Nuwen was the one doing all the saving. I wanted her to confirm my original town read. But instead what I got was an OMGUS vote, so v0v.
Mehhh... that looks bad Hohum. If you hoped she was doc, then why'd you ask if she softclaimed. That is not what you do as town when you believe someone is Doc. "I'm town, and I hope this person is the Doc, so let's OUT THEM!" Really? That's what you are going for?

In post 957, Nuwen wrote:Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to why the SK candidate and the scum-slipper are searching specifically for a
doctor
or
protective
role? The mod only confirmed that Adorkable should have died - not that it was protected. The language used by both Axxle and hohum is more specific than the moderator's and this is not a coincidence or common mistake.

Someone without perfect/additional info should be considering the presence of a roleblocker (town or otherwise), or any of DOZENS of roles that could interact with a kill in some way.
Absolutely, which is why I specifically asked Hohum where he saw any sort of Doc softclaim in what you said. His answer doesn't make sense, as you point out.


However, even though I believe that nuwen is Town, I still find the play of the day to be this:
In post 956, Axxle wrote:Nuwen, can you continue the massclaim?
Unless you can think of a logical reason not to do this with 5 players left.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:43 pm

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Oh, and I would like to state that I did see something that I though that mayyybe Hohum could see as a Doc softclaim in your post, and wanted to see if he mentioned that. After Hohum said he saw a softclaim, I looked back at your post and saw you say "Only one kill again last night" and thought that maybe he was looking at that. It's still bad even if he was. Plus, if anything, it looks more like saying that you believed that one of the sources of kills had been wiped out than anything else. And I only even saw that interpretation after I looked back at your post because of what Hohum said.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:45 pm

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You know what, even though I would like the massclaim to happen, I think that I am confident enough in this that I will
VOTE: Hohum
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:07 pm

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I'm resisting because it's just nota necessary distraction worth pursuing, but I guess COOPERATION. I'm thetrollie, with a one-shot ability "orgy." Target up to three people and if their roles are all male, they're jail kept. I targeted myself, fate, and confirmed town. I got a kdowns goodie n3 and used it last night.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:50 pm

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that's all I wanted.

Scum between trollie and nhammen.

Unvote, Vote trollie
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:29 pm

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In post 962, Nuwen wrote:I'm resisting because it's just nota necessary distraction worth pursuing, but I guess COOPERATION. I'm thetrollie, with a one-shot ability "orgy." Target up to three people and if their roles are all male, they're jail kept. I targeted myself, fate, and confirmed town. I got a kdowns goodie n3 and used it last night.

A self targeting jailkeeper is pretty implausible, has anyone played a game with one?

Hohum, why did you target Fate?

nhammen, Trollie, can you both nameclaim? I don't think role is necessary.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:52 am

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Axxle, I want you to summarize for me why you currently aren't voting for Hohum. Less than 3 sentences.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:32 am

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We have one more mislynch. If you want to lynch me for forcing a claim, then v0v. But I am not scum.

I'm done.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:37 am

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In post 965, Nuwen wrote:Axxle, I want you to summarize for me why you currently aren't voting for Hohum. Less than 3 sentences.

I was hoping to get more information out of him just in case. Looks like thats a no.

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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:14 am

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In post 964, Axxle wrote:nhammen, Trollie, can you both nameclaim? I don't think role is necessary.
I already claimed to be in a neighbor-like role with EK, who was Glork. You could probably guess that this means I am singersigner.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:20 am

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Votecount 6.1
LYNCH --> hohum (3): Nuwen, nhammen, Axxle

Nuwen (0):
Axxle (0):
TheTrollie (1): hohum
nhammen (0):

With 5 people alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is Tuesday, April 2nd at 6 PM EST, which is in (expired on 2013-04-02 18:00:00).

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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:22 am

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Flavor goes here.


hohum was
Piesurio, a member of the Town
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The deadline for night actions is in (expired on 2013-03-29 18:00:00).
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:17 am

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Flavor goes here.


Axxle has died. He was
xRECKONERx, a member of the Town
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Day 7 begins now! Deadline is April 16th at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2013-04-16 18:00:00).
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:33 am

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Trollie, you were VLA for most of the day yesterday. Any comments you would like to share?
Would you like to claim?
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:06 am

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d00t dee d00t
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:53 am

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Prods please.
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