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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:31 pm

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YES I'LL NARROW IT DOWN FURTHER. And may give some reasons for a few on request.
I'll have the bottom down to scum soon...
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:33 pm

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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:34 pm

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Le Cupcake wrote:2. On a whim, mod rushed me. I like the number 10.
How did it happen that the mod had to rush you?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:35 pm

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That's more like it.

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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:37 pm

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Fate wrote:That's more like it.

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If there was a case on him, he'd respond to it. But there isn't, so he can't. "simples"
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:37 pm

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Well, considering people look like they're going to be fucking stupid, and I'll be lynched by the time I return...

I be needing to claim.

Cop.

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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:38 pm

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Pom and Llama
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:38 pm

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Jack wrote:
Le Cupcake wrote:2. On a whim, mod rushed me. I like the number 10.
How did it happen that the mod had to rush you?
Because I didn't know we were suppose to submit numbers upon signup, and that alignments were only given after you submitted your number.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:38 pm

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AS IN CHOICE WEIRDNESS.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:40 pm

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I....I could have had Cop??
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:40 pm

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Those ARE some shitty choices by the way.

I mean hot damn.

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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:43 pm

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Cop claim means lynch someone else regardless of how scummy the person is :(

I'm not enthusiastic about a le cupcake lynch.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:44 pm

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Last game no fucker picked it. I guessed that no bugger would this time, and felt that while I'm always crap at playing cop, a couple of set reads is better than nothing at all.

Anyways, I'm off, I'll possibly check in in the morning if I have chance, otherwise adios until Monday (or I shall join people in the dead thread as I get offed tonight, and action is already submitted, so no worries if we lynch while I'm away and I do somehow survive).

And why are they shitty choices? I could see no solid read on either, and it at least confirms them as town (anyone who could potentially be seen as scummy may have the inverter being used on them, so I wasn't risking that, and anyone near the top of the numbers seemed pointless in general).
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:45 pm

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Yeah, his interactions with gandalf were pretty bad.


Why not Cupcake?

Any particular towntells you have on him?

As per your own list its down to me, Ellie, and Cupcake now.
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:46 pm

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Fate wrote:Those ARE some shitty choices by the way.

I mean hot damn.

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He's not the lynch but are you sure prana's town? Sounds like it with "shitty choices".
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:48 pm

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Fate wrote:Yeah, his interactions with gandalf were pretty bad.


Why not Cupcake?

Any particular towntells you have on him?

As per your own list its down to me, Ellie, and Cupcake now.
No.

It is down to you three, I wanto see what hoop has on elli.

Watching the game now though so I'll get to it later.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:50 pm

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Upon ISO of Cupcake his interactions with gandalf were forced, he was lamely distancing as only vote on SS far past its prime, he helped push the Inhim wagon to claim, and today his top scumreads are apparently two lurkers for 100% meta reasons.


What the fuck are you smoking Jack?
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:51 pm

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Jack wrote:
Fate wrote:Those ARE some shitty choices by the way.

I mean hot damn.

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He's not the lynch but are you sure prana's town? Sounds like it with "shitty choices".
I'm not sure, nor does it matter, because he'll be lynched when the time comes if it comes.

Shitty choices also mean "skeptical choices" claim wise.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:00 pm

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If we're to believe Gandalf was the highest scum pick, which I do, we have to look at the possible numbers scum could have chosen for their whole team. It's a reasonably safe assumption to assume one is in the 6's, but other than that, Ellibereth town means that scum would have chosen 3 of their X numbers over 10, unless Guderian is scum, there are two scum in the 6's, or Llama is the inverter. I don't think any of those situations are likely.

Scum's numbers were probably 3, 5, 6, 12 and another high number, rather than being 3, 6, 11, 12, 13 (for example) - the only exception to this rule is if Jack is scum, as he's the only one here other than me who is savvy enough to realise the importance of number analysis, and would do something strange to mess with it. I'm not abandoning my belief Elli is scum based on a chance Jack is though, because I think Jack is more likely town.

Another thing that points in the Elli direction, is based on the (presumably) top two role choices scum picked. Notice the lack of vig attempts - this might be a direct compensating from Elli's previous game as scum in PYP3, where the scumteam decided to take a fleet of vigs, which backfired spectacularly. I could see a scumteam with Elli in it, given these picks.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:01 pm

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I'm savvy enough to mess with numbers, what the fuck?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:03 pm

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Fate wrote:I'm savvy enough to mess with numbers, what the fuck?
You're not really, insofar as you don't value number analysis as a viable enough scumhunting method to do something extraordinary as scum to fuck with it.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:05 pm

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Hoopla wrote:or Llama is the inverter.
Just before I head off. The inverter picks a target. Anyone could be the inverter and pick anyone else to use the ability on. Which is the main reason I went for the choices I did. They were highly unlikely to have the inverter ability being used on them.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:07 pm

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Hoopla wrote:or Llama is the inverter.
Just before I head off. The inverter picks a target. Anyone could be the inverter and pick anyone else to use the ability on. Which is the main reason I went for the choices I did. They were highly unlikely to have the inverter ability being used on them.
Hmmm. Yes.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:07 pm

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Considering my whole play this game has been based off your number analysis, I'd highly disagree.


Then again I highly disagree with any statement that doesn't give me enough credit.

I'm sure if I'm ever scum in one of these things (I rather not be, considering the win rate unless they get a shit ton of competent players and OP roles in the mix), I'd come up with some pretty sexy number mindfucking.

OR I'd just kill you N1 and not have to deal with it.

Its a shame that my win in Elliland didn't dazzle and amaze you because you pretty much just wrote it off due to Elli's set-up, because I put my heart and soul into my scumgame and look at every damn analysis out there to make sure its air tight.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:07 pm

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Scum don't have the inverter this game.
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