Mini 1519: Such unusual pretermen rarely exist; maybe evil?

[Empking]

Vote XXXVIII

Espeonage (2) - Natirasha, Hiraki
Frog (1) - Espeonage

Not Voting: Frog, inte, quadz08

With 6 players alive it is four to lynch.
(expired on 2014-02-05 16:29:36)

[quadz08]

I am thinking about the fact that nati, inte, and I are confirmed town, so I'm good to lynch pretty much anyone else at this point

[Hiraki]

I don't think I need to say this but I don't want anyone pulling any other moves until Frog comes back.

[Natirasha]

I'm fine with that.

I also don't want this day to go on forever though.

[quadz08]

I am thinking about the fact that nati, inte, and I are confirmed town, so I'm good to lynch pretty much anyone else at this point

just realized i misspoke slightly: confirmed not-werewolf, so as-good-as-conftown for the purposes of today

[Espeonage]

Yeah quadz, two of us are scum. Just choose whoever you think is most likely to be town and the pick on of the other two randomly.

Unvote

Imma jump on whoever gets lynch support.

[inte]

i shot last night but only cuz of the town directives

if i shot by myself i'd be anti town

[Natirasha]

Its true, he didn't really want to shoot. And he didn't want to shoot Kaze, too, but quadz and I kinda forced him to.

[quadz08]

I confirm the truthery of those statements.

Will try to find time for re-readiness today.

[frog]

Sorry for exiting so abruptly, everyone.

Anyhow, I've read through the last few days of content, and I'm inclined to agree with Natirasha. I was rather confused at the setup, especially after that flavour last night, but inte is as good as town for today. Werewolves can't be monks is correct, and I'm pretty sure this game isn't bastard. Inte's nightkill matches up and isn't scummy at all, especially after quadz and Nati confirmation. This leaves Espeonage and Hiraki in my lynch pool.

Espeonage can you get in here and answer my earlier query about you and thinking there is scum inside/outside the monastery?

[Espeonage]

I did. I said that there are categorically no scum in the masonry as far as I am concerned.

[Hiraki]

It's between the two of them. I have nothing further to say.

[Natirasha]

I think we lay down the votes now.

[quadz08]

VOTE: hiraki

ISO'd all 3, this is the most comfortable vote for me. Espeon's play has been the most towny, and in retrospect I don't like Hiraki leaving the monks on his suspect list post-monk claim. Reeks of scum trying to keep mislynches available.

[Hiraki]

Reeks of scum trying to keep mislynches available.

Or just thinking about things thoroughly? You're off my list solely for the fact that

no one

else believes that you can be scum. I still think that's a possibility but since no one else does (especially since you're just outright calling Espeonage the towniest yet , there's no point to keep you as a suspect. I can't get a lynch there.

On the flip side, this is the game telling me that I'm barking up the wrong tree. I would not be surprised if the game ended with you and Espeonage as scum but there is something pushing me toward going the status quo.

How do you find Espeonage the towniest?

[quadz08]

he is the towniest of the three possibilities. He's posted useful content, consistently throughout the game, and I tend to agree with his analyses. Plus, his comment about the game being breakable read as quite town to me.

[Hiraki]

I can't argue with the rest. It's pure "let's-make-shit-up-on-the-spot" bullshit but I have absolutely no reason why you would do that. I swore that you were a better player than this and I urge everyone else to see that this is seriously going on. I am still deadset on Quadz/Espeonage but I can completely understand why everyone would want it to be Espeonage/Frog or some combination of our little trio but my gut and mind are in complete alignment here.

Plus, his comment about the game being breakable read as quite town to me.

How does that comment by itself shout town to you?

Finally, if you agree with Espeonage's readings and such, then why are you voting me rather than frog?

[quadz08]

I said I

tend

to agree with them, not that we're in lockstep.

It's town because it didn't seem upset like "fuck this game is breakable we're going to lose" but instead "fuck this game is breakable, what shitty design."

*shrug* You can be deadset on me being scum all you want, but this isn't a bastard game. I'm a confirmed monk. I'm town. Period end-of-story.

[Hiraki]

I said I tend to agree with them, not that we're in lockstep.

So you don't think that frog is scum? You kind of completely dodged my question.

[quadz08]

Assuming I'm right about you, it's either frog or esp. I find frog to be more likely than esp, so by POE I think he's scum, yes

[frog]

Vote: Espeonage

I'm quite comfortable with this vote. From Sweet Sixteen to his odd play when he replaced in, asking for a massclaim and dodging around issues, even professing opposite sentiments within a dozen posts of each other (see earlier) and not clearing this up, I'm quite convinced Espeonage is scum. Assuming 3 scum, Hiraki's there by PoE, but I'm much surer of Espeonage than I am of Hiraki.

L-1, by the way.

[quadz08]

wait timeout

is there a reason we aren't no-lynching?

[Espeonage]

oshit, yeah.

Monks can do their investigate on one of us three tonight. Then that gives either the end of the game if they get an innocent or the lynch if they're scum.

Nice catch quadz.

[frog]

Unvote

A no lynch might actually work.
Espeonage, I'm not sure if your understanding of mink abilities if correct, but regardless, tomorrow will be easier with one fewer player. Only problem is the possible presence of an SK.

[Natirasha]

SK can't reliably shoot unless he knows he'll hit wolf in such a situation.

Not sure on NL, for reasons I'd prefer quadz and I not elaborate on.