Mafia 66: Freelancer - Game over!

Sir Tornado · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:36 pm

Oh, and if Jalyn indeed comes up SK, especially the blue SK, I would suspect Estes of being the red SK...

Seriously, Tome of Hugo?

Estes · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:44 am

Man Tornado, we clash in all our games huh?

The vote was due to Jordan pushing for her vote. Based on his findings earlier in the game - look back if you want to read it - I consider her actions more suspicious than anyone else's at this point.

And, I wrote "Kill me if I'm wrong" because this game has gone on forever, and if I miss this then I have no idea who to kill. But, I will support a no lynch if that is what the town wants; although I don't like no lynching.

There ya go. I took the time to answer your question, you may not like what I've said but at least I'm trying to move the game along. Now, Tornado, go answer my question in game 41.

Jalyn · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:58 am

ST, that's exactly why I'm confused. Estes attack looks like a clumsy SK attacking someone that they missed a NK on and fabricating an argument for it out of thin air. The problem is - I'm not a SK, so that argument doesn't make sense. I realize that that's not confusing to anyone else.

Although... Jordan's reasoning is better, but honestly accusing someone of lurking in this game is like accusing a swimmer of being wet. I could see ScumJordan going after someone that he knows is scum goes after with no reasoning perhaps forgetting that the third SK is already dead?
I guess that would make my plan lynch Estes and if he comes up scum, lynch me. Once I come up town, lynch Jordan?
If Estes comes up scum, that should take us out of lylo and give the town breathing room to verify that he wasn't pointing out another SK when he voted for me. (We'd be at 4 to 1 in the morning vs being at 1 to 2 if we mislynch.)

In fact,

vote:Estes

JordanA24 · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:57 am

Qman, what do you think about this?

And where's Yagami?

Qman · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:46 am

I've been out of town for a wedding, i guess i forgot to post that. Doh. I'll check in here shortly after i finish unpacking.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:03 am

Ah, ok, I'll check 41 soon Estes.

Many people may not like what I am saying, but it is a great idea NOT to lynch a SK right now unless we are sure of hitting both of them. 1 SK alive = Town loses. 2 SKs alive = They fight like mad to get the upper hand.

I think we should no lynch. Always. We no lynch right now, and if SKs kill, we are left with 4. No lynch again. The game eventually goes to a tie, which I would prefer right now because it impossible to get 2 SKs in a row.

So, Jalyn, Estes, leave your votes where they are at the moment. Others, do not vote any one of them. We'll tie this one.

Alternatively, is there a way to agree for a tie if everyone wants a draw?

JordanA24 · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:22 am

How would we lose if we lynch an SK? 6 alive now, 2 SK's, we lynch one, a townie gets NKed, 4 alive, 1 SK.

If we no-lynch however, after tonight, we potentially have 4 alive, 2 SK's, and town loses.

Vote: Jalyn

for first suggesting no lynching.

Jalyn · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:50 am

Huh.

A) Sir Tornado - I think you are missing the fact that the SKs can't kill each other at night. I'm not sure how it would possibly be bad to lynch a SK today? That would put as at 3 town/1 SK tomorrow which is by no means a SK win.

The only thing that we can't do is lynch a townie, unless we're actually aiming for the draw.

B) Oh for crying out loud Jordan, I asked a question because I know that there's probability that goes into the no lynch at lylo that I don't understand. I didn't even suggest it, I asked about it.

Anyway:

Lynch SK:
Tonight 4/1
Tomorrow 3/1

Lynch town:
Tonight 3/2
Tomorrow - 3/2 (both SKs aim at each other), 2/2 (one SK aims at the other- town loss), 1/2 (both SK hit town- town loss)

No Lynch:
Tonight 4/2
Tomorrow - 4/2 (both SKs aim at each other), 3/2 (one SK aims that the other), 2/2 (both SKs hit town - town loss)

I would say that we're in a true lynch or lose situation - no lynch is a probable loss & a town lynch is almost certainly a loss.

JordanA24 · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:26 am

You did mention it.

Though saying that, Sir T actually advocated it.

Unvote Vote: Sir T

Aimee · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:16 am

Vote Count

Jalyn (1) -- Estes
Sir Tornado (1) -- JordanA24
Estes (1) -- Jalyn

Deadline approaching...

Jalyn · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:26 am

Hmm. I know I'm town. My lynch is a loss.
A no lynch is probably a loss.
I don't know what "approaching" means.

unvote.vote Jordan

because my convoluted logic makes a slim amount of sense to me.

Jalyn · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:43 am

Not that I can think.

unvote

(Sir T isn't voting for Jordan, Jordan is voting for Sir T.) Rereading Sir T.

Jalyn · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:48 am

Mod

What time, exactly, is the deadline?

Jalyn · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:06 am

Aaand, 4 in a row.

vote:SirTornado

I'm leaving the office so I need to make at least a temporary decision. I'll look in from home, if I have time and the deadline hasn't passed.

(For reasons, a. my lynch is a loss b. no lynch is a loss.)

Sir Tornado · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:08 am

It seems that Jordan might be one of the SKs.

If we have a lynch now, DO NOT lynch anyone.

Right now, 6 players. If I die, 5 players. 2 NKs, leaves 3 players. Out of those 3, you have 1 townie, 2 SK.

To whosoever that townie is DO NOT lynch anyone at that stage. PUSH for a No-Lynch and let the SKs tie the game.

If 4 players are left, (that is, only 1 player dies) DO NOT lynch. 4 players = 2 townies. You lynch 1 SK, the other one NKs one townie and endgames another, which we DO NOT want.

I am quite willing to settle for a draw. I just don't want the SKs to win this. The worst thing we can do right now is to lynch a SK, because then, we will have to lynch the remaining SK in a ly-lo situation, with practically no information on any of them.

Vote: No Lynch

Sir Tornado · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:09 am

Unvote

Just saw Jalyn's post after I posted

Vote: Sir Tornado

Remember, DO NOT lynch anyone tomorrow under ANY circumstances.

JordanA24 · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:10 am

^^Lynch this guy^^

Sir Tornado · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:11 am

My twisted logic for the stance I am taking: If I can't win, no one should be able to win. That's a great philosophy in life.

Aimee · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:12 am

Vote Count

Jalyn (1) -- Estes
Sir Tornado (2) -- JordanA24, Jalyn
No Lynch (1) -- Sir Tornado

Deadline approaching...

Jalyn wrote:Mod What time, exactly, is the deadline?

Midnight, forum time.

Also, on the deadline, it will take 3 to lynch (unless Occult and YB have a completely different deadline policy - I'll check).

JordanA24 · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:13 am

Sir T is selfvoting.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:13 am

I am fine by my lynch if you do not lynch any one after this. That's the pre requisite: DO NOT LYNCH ANYONE AFTER THIS.

If you do, the town loses.

If you don't, the town still loses, but the SKs lose too. That's what I want.

Aimee · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:14 am

Rules wrote:[9] A deadline may be imposed by the mod if things are slowing down. What happens at deadline will be specified, if and when a deadline is set.

I have specified.

On the deadline, it will take 3 votes to lynch someone.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:15 am

That is correct, I am self voting.

Midnight forum time is midnight GMT or BST? (Forum time is a bit vague, because you can set your timezone to whatever you want to)

Aimee · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:18 am

Sorry, I thought forum time was EST. My bad.

Deadline = Midnight, EST. (5am GMT.)

It will take 3 votes to lynch on the deadline, but 4 prior to it.

Vote Count

Sir Tornado (3) -- JordanA24, Jalyn, Sir Tornado
Jalyn (1) -- Estes

Estes · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:51 pm

unvote

I'm confused as hell right now. What is happening?