Open 550: Duck, Duck, Goose!

[Paschendale]

Absolutely. I stand by everything I said in 864. Dessew is my top choice for scum right now.

[Not_Mafia]

Dessew and NS are my preferred lynches, I just can't see that ridiculous risk taking coming from a townie who was well aware we were in LYLO where scum had daytalk, regardless of how strong the read is. Also these two quotes...

First of all, to clarify: we are at MyLo, there's no way scum (with daytalk!) wouldn't quicklynch if they can.

2. (unlikely, though) he's town, then he might as well vote me but gets yelled at and unvotes, almost immediately (three or four hours or even less, nothing to worry about.)

[Maxous]

What do you think of his NS flip flop?

:shrug:
it's not like pasch was hard-core defending NS as town...it was more of an attack on luca + bubba. ( i guess maybe pasch could of agressively protecting his buddy )

pretty curious why you're asking me this though

[Not_Mafia]

Because if scum is who I think then it looks like this is going to come down to me v Pasch

[reinoe]

So dessew, why would you formulate a gambit scenario where I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't?

Maxous and dr pants, you both have some town cred. Would you be willing to lynch dessew today? If not why not.

[Dr Pants]

Here's the deal:

It's pretty likely that Reinoe and Dessew aren't both scum, the last day basically confirms this. But you could both be town, leaving Pasche, NM, and NS as the scum team. Which means that even if I put the two of you side by side and vote the one who I think is more likely scum, there's a chance I'm wrong either way.

It's an unnecessary risk. I'd rather vote out one of my scum reads (NM and NS) than gamble on Reinoe or Dessew.

[Not_Mafia]

Can you really see Dessew's vote baiting coming from town? He doesn't seem like the type of impulsive player I could see that coming from at all. Also the contradiction in these 2 posts I just can't see coming from town

First of all, to clarify: we are at MyLo, there's no way scum (with daytalk!) wouldn't quicklynch if they can.

2. (unlikely, though) he's town, then he might as well vote me but gets yelled at and unvotes, almost immediately (three or four hours or even less, nothing to worry about.)

Also NS has been posting elsewhere on the site but hasn't come back here with any content, just some prod dodge definition post. I know he's infamous for his active lurking but I'd like to think a townie who is a likely lynch in LYLO would pull their finger out their arse and at least

try

to do something. So I have to conclude he's just dodging associative tells at this point.

These two should be the next 2 lycnhes

[Dr Pants]

But:

People on Bubba wagon: Max, Pasche, Reinoe, NM

People who think Dessew is scum: Max Pasche, Reinoe, NM

Hence the hesitancy.

[Paschendale]

Do you think it impossible or unlikely that a) the Bubba wagon was all town, or b) scum are willing to bus one of their own today, and scum who voted for Bubba are also supporting lynching Dessew?

[reinoe]

Actually I have noticed something...

It seems like Dessew's wtfgambit pops up just as n_s becomes a lot less active. It's like Dessew is doing everything he can to distract from n_s.

[Dr Pants]

Do you think it impossible or unlikely that a) the Bubba wagon was all town, or b) scum are willing to bus one of their own today, and scum who voted for Bubba are also supporting lynching Dessew?

there are seven of us now. and there were five of us on bubba. So the bubba wagon isn't all town.

[Dessew]

The more likely scenario is that you're scum and you know your scum buddies wouldn't wagon you. It's nice that when I ask about scum motivation you provide a textbook example of such a post. I can't possibly see how town would be motivated to make such a gambit. Looks like an overconfident scum gambit. It's like you're doing everything in your power to get me to vote you. I'll vote you if there's a town consensus. That should make you feel better.

You want me to pressure pasch and not not mafia? Ok I will. But I'm on my phone now.

Not mafia&pasch-would you be willing to vote Dessew today? If not then explain why not.

I wasn't on your scummylist right after the daring, so... huh?
It's just a matter of taste I want to lynch you now and not Pasch (I'm still conflicted about N_M, but I'm kind of convincing myself.) You are the first I found, it's not hard to understand, I think.

So dessew, why would you formulate a gambit scenario where I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't?

Maxous and dr pants, you both have some town cred. Would you be willing to lynch dessew today? If not why not.

I'm not sure what you meant by being damned, I haven't wanted you to vote me to determine you alignment, I have been just wanting to reduce today's lynchpool to two people.

Can you really see Dessew's vote baiting coming from town? He doesn't seem like the type of impulsive player I could see that coming from at all. Also the contradiction in these 2 posts I just can't see coming from town

First of all, to clarify: we are at MyLo, there's no way scum (with daytalk!) wouldn't quicklynch if they can.

2. (unlikely, though) he's town, then he might as well vote me but gets yelled at and unvotes, almost immediately (three or four hours or even less, nothing to worry about.)

Also NS has been posting elsewhere on the site but hasn't come back here with any content, just some prod dodge definition post. I know he's infamous for his active lurking but I'd like to think a townie who is a likely lynch in LYLO would pull their finger out their arse and at least

try

to do something. So I have to conclude he's just dodging associative tells at this point.

These two should be the next 2 lycnhes

Contradiction? Are you implying N_M, that you're

always

online? I don't see that contradiction in that way, either but I see why you'd be confused.

Actually I have noticed something...

It seems like Dessew's wtfgambit pops up just as n_s becomes a lot less active. It's like Dessew is doing everything he can to distract from n_s.

Less active? NS? Are you being serious? Less active would mean like, deleting his posts, or something.

[Paschendale]

Do you think it impossible or unlikely that a) the Bubba wagon was all town, or b) scum are willing to bus one of their own today, and scum who voted for Bubba are also supporting lynching Dessew?

there are seven of us now. and there were five of us on bubba. So the bubba wagon isn't all town.

So there are. So do you think that the scum on it are bussing Dessew, or are we looking in the wrong place?

[Dr Pants]

if dessew is scum then unless maxous and NS are the other two its a partial bus. I just think its a bad idea right now, when there are others who are more likely scum. As in NS.

[Not_Mafia]

Contradiction? Are you implying N_M, that you're

always

online? I don't see that contradiction in that way, either but I see why you'd be confused.

You've said that scum will absolutely be able to co-ordinate a quickhammer as they have day talk and then you say it wouldn't matter if there was a townie voting for another townie because they'll get yelled at and the hammer would be only be open for 4 hours max. Obviously scum won't always be online but why would you take that kind of risk when you're well aware that they have the resource to co-ordinate a quickhammer?

[Maxous]

Maxous and dr pants, you both have some town cred

. Would you be willing to lynch dessew today? If not why not.

considering it.
it will likely be himself or not_mafia, unless something changes.
what is the bold about? why are you mentioning 'town cred'?

[reinoe]

Maxous and dr pants, you both have some town cred

. Would you be willing to lynch dessew today? If not why not.

considering it.
it will likely be himself or not_mafia, unless something changes.
what is the bold about? why are you mentioning 'town cred'?

If you recall I asked Not_Mafia and Pasch the same questions. They're fine with the Dessew lynch which isn't surprising because they never saw a wagon they didn't like. They're also on my "scummy/suspicious" list. Even though you're on my personal "null" list several other players consider you town so I said you and Dr. P have town cred. I wanted to compare your answers to theirs and the townier players are more hesitant about lynching Dessew. I mentioned "town cred" to emphasize the point. Mentioning that n_m and Pasch are "suspicious/scummy" may have defeated the purpose beforehand.

[Dessew]

2) You're not in my "scummy" list. So...

The more likely scenario is that you're scum and you know your scum buddies wouldn't wagon you. It's nice that when I ask about scum motivation you provide a textbook example of such a post. I can't possibly see how town would be motivated to make such a gambit. Looks like an overconfident scum gambit. It's like you're doing everything in your power to get me to vote you. I'll vote you if there's a town consensus. That should make you feel better.

You want me to pressure pasch and not not mafia? Ok I will. But I'm on my phone now.

Not mafia&pasch-would you be willing to vote Dessew today? If not then explain why not.

So dessew, why would you formulate a gambit scenario where I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't?

Maxous and dr pants, you both have some town cred. Would you be willing to lynch dessew today? If not why not.

Actually I have noticed something...

It seems like Dessew's wtfgambit pops up just as n_s becomes a lot less active. It's like Dessew is doing everything he can to distract from n_s.

I like how you're scumreading me because of something that happened

before

you called me not-scum.
If you don't dare to vote me, then I will.
VOTE: reinoe

[reinoe]

Just like I thought. As soon as you saw you weren't in my "scummy" list you used it as an opportunity to launch your gambit.

I hope everyone considers the scummy motivations behind Dessews behavior all day and how he's depriving town of information.
VOTE: Dessew

[Not_Mafia]

I really hope that you're not both town. There's no reason to be voting this early

Meanwhile NS's game avoidance continues

[Dessew]

IT'S ON!

[Dessew]

Just like I thought. As soon as you saw you weren't in my "scummy" list you used it as an opportunity to launch your gambit.

I hope everyone considers the scummy motivations behind Dessews behavior all day and how he's depriving town of information.
VOTE: Dessew

Wait, wait... As soon as? Demonstrate it, please. I might as well say you're lying.

[Not_Mafia]

Dessew I don't even understand what point you're trying to make in #917, he listed you as null and THEN you did your ridiculous anti-town gambit

[reinoe]

My reads list was posted at 858. Your "dare to vote me" was 876.

[Dessew]

And in #878 you said I wasn't on your "scummy list." Answer #921.