Mini 803 - Pale Moon Risin' (Over!)

Zilla · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:14 pm

Well, actually no it doesn't. KMD scum could just not kill me.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:24 pm

If scum kill one of Llama/Camn/Incog, it leaves me and you both alive and you'll have Llama's gift if we no lynch tomorrow. If they kill me, you still have Llama's gift I have confidence in the remaining living players catching scum. If they kill someone else, we are a little confused. If they try to kill you, they won't get a kill tonight. XD

Best case scenario, I'm protect you tonight so that you live to tomorrow and hopefully the scum kill me. Yes, a JOAT would be gone, but after tonight, my role probably isn't as useful as Llama's gift being in your posession. So that's the plan. I'm protecting you. Llama is giving you his gift.

Shit. Problem. What are the chances of you actually getting to use the gift? If it's a one-shot investigation or something, you probably die the same night you use it and don't get anything from it. Whatever, we'll worry about that tomorrow.

Zilla · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:27 pm

^ You seem pretty confident that Llama is telling the truth about his gifts...

Zilla · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:28 pm

Incog and camn claimed vanilla, right?

LlamaFluff · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:29 pm

Zilla wrote:If I live and get a present, that narrows it down to Incog and Camn.

And to think I have been telling you this since D2...

What about the scenario of charter not being the RB though?

Zilla · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:31 pm

Camn claimed "dumb peasant."

WHERE DID INCOG CLAIM?

Zilla · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:32 pm

Llama: I'm glad you brought it up and KMD not bringing it up is a little suspect; perhaps forgetting to mention it here would let scum KMD kill me and then say "I was roleblocked!"

However, it's covered. I've already cleared with the mod that I can target myself.

Zilla · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:33 pm

That means, KMD has committed to protecting me, and there are two sources for my protection. THERE IS NO REASON I SHOULD DIE TONIGHT. If I do, KMD is scum.

camn · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:33 pm

incog... I think zilla is town.

I think i will reread Kmd tonight, and you should reread llama.
Then tomorrow we can bring some old-fashioned vanilla arguments to the table, since these guys are so PowerRole crazy!

Kmd4390 · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:34 pm

Zilla wrote:^ You seem pretty confident that Llama is telling the truth about his gifts...

Myko got one and flipped town. Do you think a confirmed town player lied about it?

Zilla wrote:Incog and camn claimed vanilla, right?

Actually, did Camn claim? I know Incog claimed 'nilla.

LlamaFluff wrote: What about the scenario of charter not being the RB though?

Then scum have options. Let's not help them though. You and I can figure out what to do at night if necessary.

Zilla wrote:Camn claimed "dumb peasant."

WHERE DID INCOG CLAIM?

k.

Incog claimed before me or Charter. He basically said "We should massclaim now. I'll kick it off. I'm vanilla" or something like that.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:36 pm

Zilla wrote:Llama: I'm glad you brought it up and KMD not bringing it up is a little suspect; perhaps forgetting to mention it here would let scum KMD kill me and then say "I was roleblocked!"

However, it's covered. I've already cleared with the mod that I can target myself.

>.< I've already been blocked. The only way I'm lying is if scum didn't RB N1 or scum blocked their own player.

So you DIDN'T self-protect N1. How'd you know Charter was scum then....

camn · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:36 pm

shh. Dont tell! Its obvious, kmd!!

Kmd4390 · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:37 pm

Zilla wrote:That means, KMD has committed to protecting me, and there are two sources for my protection. THERE IS NO REASON I SHOULD DIE TONIGHT. If I do, KMD is scum.

What if scum actually

do

block one of us... Then we are fucked cuz I look like scum faking a RB...

Zilla · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:37 pm

found it, he just said "I claim vanilla." No peasant or anything.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:39 pm

camn wrote:shh. Dont tell! Its obvious, kmd!!

*headscratch*

Damn subtle things...........

Zilla · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:40 pm

I don't follow your logic, KMD. If they block one of us, it won't matter either way.

And like I said, I'm clearing everything up tomorrow, I'll say why I knew Charter was scum.

Zilla · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:40 pm

But I'd love to hear Camn's speculation.

Zilla · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:41 pm

Kmd4390 wrote:
Zilla wrote:^ You seem pretty confident that Llama is telling the truth about his gifts...
Myko got one and flipped town. Do you think a confirmed town player lied about it?

I think Mykonian told us what he thought was the truth. I'm still wary of the role in itself, alternative explanations, etc.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:42 pm

Oh, right. You'll survive tonight guaranteed. Ok. So Llama is safe to give you the gift. And I'm probably dead then because blocking me is pointless.

I'm still not seeing why Charter was scum, but whatever. If you can explain it tomorrow, I'm happy.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:42 pm

Zilla wrote:
Kmd4390 wrote:
Zilla wrote:^ You seem pretty confident that Llama is telling the truth about his gifts...
Myko got one and flipped town. Do you think a confirmed town player lied about it?
I think Mykonian told us what he thought was the truth. I'm still wary of the role in itself, alternative explanations, etc.

So Myko got a one-shot protection from somewhere other than the claimed inventor who said he'd targeted Myko?

Zilla · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:48 pm

I'm thinking he didn't really get a one-shot doc but a placebo, or perhaps Llama could be scum who can give out inventions, and he targeted town to gain town "clearance." (in which case, at the very least I'm stealing one of their inventions tonight).

Either way, I'm testing his claim, especially since last night he apparently gave it to a dead man.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:50 pm

Llama gave Myko a one-shot protection. That is what I am sure of. Maybe he's scum who has that ability, but I believe Myko at least.

Zilla · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:51 pm

Nothing has happened to rule out a placebo. Even if that's not the case, that's a wonderful scum role idea that I will have to steal for one of my games.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:51 pm

What's a placebo?

Zilla · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:53 pm

literally, it means fake medication used as a control in a medical study to negate "the placebo effect," where patients will experience symptoms of the medication just because they believe they took the medication.

In this case, I'm saying Myko received a fake one-shot doc. Or, basically, he received nothing that looked like a one-shot doc.