Mini 458 - Game over!

[Mastermind of Sin]

if the votes swell against MoS again, I might switch my vote again to him

Why would more votes on MoS cause you to move your vote to him? Looking for a bandwagon to join?

MoS: I'd like your opinion on something:

Assuming that both you and I are town, do you think Num7 could be buddying up to me?

At this point, who do you think could be buddying up to you?

1)Why are you asking MoS?
2)Why assume that both of you are town? I think that is rather unlikely. You have been going at each other tooth and claw.

WHOA WHOA WHOA. Alarm bells going off in my head so hard I've got a headache! Question #2 is a perfect setup for scum. By stating that you think one or the other of us is scum, then you set up a 1-2 lynch if one of us gets lynched and turns up town. Not to mention that it is totally bullshit to say that two people arguing a lot have to have different alignments. That in and of itself is suspicious, and you used that statement to justify the setup for a double mislynch.

Major FoS: Num7

I'm

VERY

tempt to vote you after this, but I'm still convinced Adel is scum.

[MeMe]

Vote Count

Mastermind of Sin

(3):

dylan41985, Adel, Numenorean7

Adel

(3):

Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur, curiouskarmadog

dylan41985

(1):

ThAdmiral

curiouskarmadog

(1):

Crub

Not voting

(4):

Kate, molestargazer, NabakovNabakov, pickemgenius

Lynch at seven.

[Adel]

I'm not comfortable with the company I have on the MoS wagon anymore.

unvote

until I do a reread and a major reassessment of what I think is going on in this game.

[Numenorean7]

By stating that you think one or the other of us is scum, then you set up a 1-2 lynch if one of us gets lynched and turns up town. Not to mention that it is totally bullshit to say that two people arguing a lot have to have different alignments. That in and of itself is suspicious, and you used that statement to justify the setup for a double mislynch.

Sorry, my mistake. I found it weird that Adel would assume you are town when she's been attacking you so vehemently. I was also thinking it's unlikely you're both scum, because the argument would be very intense for scum distancing. The two thoughts must have gotten confused.
There's no reason to believe that you're not both pro-town.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Num7, fyi, you probably should've been reading Adel's post as "If we assume that..."

[MeMe]

~bump~

[Mastermind of Sin]

*sigh*

[curiouskarmadog]

gone for the weekend, might be able to post later today, if needed..

[Mastermind of Sin]

it'd be nice if anyone else was even here...

[Tarhalindur]

I'm not comfortable with the company I have on the MoS wagon anymore. unvote until I do a reread and a major reassessment of what I think is going on in this game.

That's an incredibly scummy reason to jump off a wagon. You seem to be implying that you never really thought MoS was scummy in the first place... and if that's the case, then why exactly were you voting him?

[Numenorean7]

it'd be nice if anyone else was even here...

I'm still here, but I don't really know what to say.

Per is back on the 29th. When he returns, perhaps it would be time for a deadline?

[curiouskarmadog]

it'd be nice if anyone else was even here...

I'm still here, but I don't really know what to say.

Per is back on the 29th. When he returns, perhaps it would be time for a deadline?

I am sort of at a loss here too....Adel removing her vote is interesting, as she put herself in the lead.

[curiouskarmadog]

Num, any repsonse to the fact that Adel does not like you and dylan as voting partners?

[curiouskarmadog]

(sorry for the triple post)

but she didnt have a problem with it (you and dylan) when I was at -1

[Kate]

it'd be nice if anyone else was even here...

I'm still here, but I don't really know what to say.

Per is back on the 29th. When he returns, perhaps it would be time for a deadline?

I am sort of at a loss here too....Adel removing her vote is interesting, as she put herself in the lead.

Idon't really know what to say either...I'd like to hear from Adel too, but other than that, i think we need to find a new topic...

[Numenorean7]

I agree that the company seems a strange reason to get off a wagon, but Tar already said that.
It's a lose-lose situation for Adel. If she still thinks MoS is scum, why unvote just because she doesn't like the others on the wagon? If she doesn't think MoS is scum, that's a major flip-flop for no apparant reason. And what is she saying about dylan?

[pickemgenius]

Prod: Molestargazer

KICK IN THE BUTT: dylan

[dylan41985]

pleeeease can we make a decision

[pickemgenius]

pleeeease can we make a decision

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease can you post something good.

[Adel]

I'm still reading. I got some sudden doubt. Cold feet. I was about to make a hard push on the MoS wagon and I realized that I am not

that

sure that he is scum. He's scummy enough for me to vote for, but not scummy enough to lynch. I don't have a good case on anyone else, I just don't. I rereading, looking for one. Once I have one, I'll let you know. However, I do not believe in issuing a play by play as I do my reread- I don't think it is a good idea.

dylan is the VI, I consider his actions to be random. Num7 I've bought as town since he joined in. I haven't examined his posts in a critical way.
It is hard for me to keep my dislike for ckd from influencing my perception of him as scum. I was never very serious about ThAdmiral being scum, since I've basically always read him as scum- I did poke him that one time but he didn't react in a scummy way from what I could tell. Basically, I'm critically challenging all of my views on all of the players in this game. It will take me a little while. I've never voted on a wagon that lynched scum when playing as town before, I'd like this vote to break that nasty streak. It matters to me.

[MeMe]

molestargazer has been prodded

[Mastermind of Sin]

Argh...

[Numenorean7]

I will try to manage a re-read as well.

[Mastermind of Sin]

People I am nearly 100% certain are not scum:

NabNab

People that are probably not scum:

Tarhalindur
dylan

People who looked protown, then turned scummy:

Adel
Num7
Crub

People who looked scummy, then turned protown:

ckd
pickem

Unknown:

ThAdmiral
Molestargazer
Kate

Disclaimer: These categories are generalized and may not fully reflect the entirety of what has happened in the thread. I'm just letting you know where I stand.

[Tarhalindur]

<snip>

Kate - Enigma. I've seen this particular playstyle before, and I still can't get a read on it. I'd rather ignore Kate for now - I should be able to get a much better read on her once Newb 399 is over.

<snip>

Newb 399 just ended. As it turns out, Kate was scum in that game.

Now that I know that Kate's current playstyle is an anti-town playstyle, I think that an

Unvote, Vote: Kate

is in order.