Mini 1323- Mafia on the BEACH. GAME OVER


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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 11:07 am

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I've changed my mind and want to no lynch and massclaim tomorrow.

It makes sense not to out everyone when the scum still have at least one kill tonight.

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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 1:50 pm

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I haven't been in many MYLO/LYLO situations, so I'll go with everyone's wisdom. I just worry they will NK a more obvious townie, and we will be in a pretty similar situation yet having lost a day to scumhunt.

pedit : I counted quickly and I think we've got a majority No Lynch. I'll use this night (as in the next few days) for some ISOs on some players I don't have a strong read on (i.e. Splitfarvle, Havingfitz, Silverlands).
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 2:35 pm

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In post 874, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm here. I'm for a mass-claim.
this is more reason for a NL and massclaim tomorrow

thank ya very much
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 4:25 pm

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rban has computer/internet troubles and has declared V/LA
Its just whatever
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:03 am

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In post 877, Hiraki wrote:
In post 874, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm here. I'm for a mass-claim.
this is more reason for a NL and massclaim tomorrow

thank ya very much


I don't like No Lynches in general. It's a cheap way for the mafia to get a free night kill.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:43 am

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Grey...why aren't you voting?
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:51 am

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Because I'm not sold on the no lynch plan and I don't slam down my vote in MyLo?
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 1:47 pm

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In post 879, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I don't like No Lynches in general. It's a cheap way for the mafia to get a free night kill.

It's either reduce to pool of possible suspects, or possibly lose today. How confident are you in your Silver read? They went from pro-town in 551 to scum today without you ever bothering to say why.
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 4:05 pm

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I dont see how a no lynch reduces the pool of suspects. Im about 60% sure on phillamon.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 4:06 pm

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Silver, rather.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:36 pm

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I see I've made my a mistake in my last post. When I counted the no-lynches, I read quickly and took the mod's not voting as no-lynches.
So, what I was working on for next day I can start to share now.

I've looked closely at Thomith/Split. They both have been active in this game, and contributing nicely. Interestingly, Thomith went hard after Monkeyman while Split hammered pappums for basically doing the same thing (I realize I'm simplifying things, but it's still noteworthy). So, while I generally find Split has played pro-town, there's a post that bothers me.
In post 824, splitfarvle wrote:
(regarding my analysis of Grey as scum-neigbour from pappum's twilight reveal)

This is a good catch. I glossed over the neighbors claim because I didn't realize it was a role in the game until this post. The last time I played about a year ago this was called unconfirmed masons. The wiki does say that in a group of three chances are reasonable that one of them is scum. I'm ok with either Monkey or Grey being lynched today, they're both likely scum.
unvote

VOTE: GreyICE
Adding more pressure to address this issue.
Split refers to GreyIce many times, but rarely addresses him directly. The only indication of a read is from 498 (his first post) where not much is said (doesn't see Crypto/GreyIce as scum). Then, after my post, he's ok with a Grey lynch. Votes to "add pressure", but doesn't really look further.

Overall, I don't think split should be our lynch target tomorrow (given the likely NL today) as my suspicion on him is rather dependant on a scumGrey, but I think it would be worthwhile to reconsider if GreyIce is lynched and flips scum.

UNVOTE:
I will vote no-lynch once we approach deadline. I would prefer to continue investigating and getting discussion today to help us in LYLO. I feel it is to the scums' advantage if there is little discussion and scum-hunting today as they would have fewer chances of slipping or forcing themselves to take stances that may incriminate them later.

Will look into havingfitz next.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 11:42 pm

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In post 821, Hiraki wrote:I fucking read your posts.

However all your posts contradict what you said yesterday.

And I want
YOUR
case.

You learn to fucking read first.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 4:29 am

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In post 883, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I dont see how a no lynch reduces the pool of suspects. Im about 60% sure on phillamon.

Man, so good of you to investigate him, rather than the night kill.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 5:14 am

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In post 887, GreyICE wrote:
In post 883, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I dont see how a no lynch reduces the pool of suspects. Im about 60% sure on phillamon.

Man, so good of you to investigate him, rather than the night kill.


I was not really suspicious of him until today, and I had no way of knowing Yuriko would end up dead.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 5:31 am

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Grey, can you pester Monkey about this too? He seems to be ignoring me again.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 7:08 am

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In post 889, Hiraki wrote:Grey, can you pester Monkey about this too? He seems to be ignoring me again.


I ignore assholes as a rule.
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 7:13 am

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What have I done that's so assholish?

Quote me, please. I'd love to know.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 9:09 am

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In post 891, Hiraki wrote:What have I done that's so assholish?

Quote me, please. I'd love to know.



Hiraki wrote:I don't know.

How much more.

I can.

Handle.

This.

Fucking.

Shit.

WHY ISN'T HE DEAD?


I just don't like your rage-posting style, to be honest, nor your condescending tone whenever you don't like the way someone else posts. Plus your swearing every other post. It's quite the double standard.

At any rate, I'm not reading you as scum right now, but I'm not going to respond to you and encourage your posting behavior. Psychology 101.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 10:16 am

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Okay.

Grey. Could you ask him then in a "My Little Ponies Friendly" way?

I'm not a brony, and I hope you only have parts of brony in you, so I can't really spell it out to Ms. Monkey.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 11:08 am

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Monkey, if you could be so kind, we cannot afford another mislynch. Therefore it would be really really nice if you could tell us why your vote is on silverlands.

Also if you could explain:

1) Why didn't you investigate Chkflip/hoopsmcgee after investigating him night 1? It's not like Chk lurk-flaking out of the game made him more likely to be town, and frankly you haven't paid a wit of attention to that slot after you supposedly 'investigated' it night 1.
2) What do you think of ol' hoopy anyway. Y'know, your strongest scum suspect from day 1.
3) What is your case on silverlands (yes, I asked it already)

I mean, these are all very good things to know.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 11:53 am

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Thank you GreyICE! You're so sweet and cuddly!
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:36 pm

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In post 885, hoopsmcgee wrote:I see I've made my a mistake in my last post. When I counted the no-lynches, I read quickly and took the mod's not voting as no-lynches.
So, what I was working on for next day I can start to share now.

I've looked closely at Thomith/Split. They both have been active in this game, and contributing nicely. Interestingly, Thomith went hard after Monkeyman while Split hammered pappums for basically doing the same thing (I realize I'm simplifying things, but it's still noteworthy). So, while I generally find Split has played pro-town, there's a post that bothers me.
In post 824, splitfarvle wrote:
(regarding my analysis of Grey as scum-neigbour from pappum's twilight reveal)

This is a good catch. I glossed over the neighbors claim because I didn't realize it was a role in the game until this post. The last time I played about a year ago this was called unconfirmed masons. The wiki does say that in a group of three chances are reasonable that one of them is scum. I'm ok with either Monkey or Grey being lynched today, they're both likely scum.
unvote

VOTE: GreyICE
Adding more pressure to address this issue.
Split refers to GreyIce many times, but rarely addresses him directly. The only indication of a read is from 498 (his first post) where not much is said (doesn't see Crypto/GreyIce as scum). Then, after my post, he's ok with a Grey lynch. Votes to "add pressure", but doesn't really look further.

Overall, I don't think split should be our lynch target tomorrow (given the likely NL today) as my suspicion on him is rather dependant on a scumGrey, but I think it would be worthwhile to reconsider if GreyIce is lynched and flips scum.

UNVOTE:
I will vote no-lynch once we approach deadline. I would prefer to continue investigating and getting discussion today to help us in LYLO. I feel it is to the scums' advantage if there is little discussion and scum-hunting today as they would have fewer chances of slipping or forcing themselves to take stances that may incriminate them later.

Will look into havingfitz next.

The issue is still on my mind, but I got sidetracked into whether we should mass-claim and no lynch. It's also very much on my mind that there is theoretically both a cop and a tracker in this game. I'm not very experienced, but that does seem like much. If we decide not to no-lynch, I would probably lynch either Monkey or Grey.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 5:33 am

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So is everyone just chilling until the deadline creeps up on is?

Who are people leaning towards? Or towards a no lynch?
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 6:01 am

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In post 897, havingfitz wrote:So is everyone just chilling until the deadline creeps up on is?

Who are people leaning towards? Or towards a no lynch?
No one knows, because everyone is lurking and not giving ideas/reads.

I'm up for NL today to even out the odds.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 7:41 am

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Apologies. It is regrettable to force this upon you so soon after having asked to come in, but circumstances are what they are and I can do little to change that; I will be
requiring replacement
as my issues do not appear as if they will vanish any time soon.

However, I still wish to give my parting thoughts for my replacement to hopefully take into consideration.

For starters,
VOTE: No Lynch.

While I still believe that massclaim with a no-lynch is the best plan, of the two I have come to the conclusion that if I must have one that the no-lynch is more important.
That having been said, if not a massclaim I still would prefer split and possibly hoopsmcgee to have claimed.

I shall give reads in my next post.
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