20th-Century Philosophy Mafia (Mini 1388) Game Over

[Leafsnail]

Also why didn't we nameclaim on the last day? I mean I was scum so I rolled with it but...

[Antihero]

because we all got fakeclaims anyway

Acosmist gave me this awesome Bertrand Russell BP townie fake role PM, but I chickened out and decided to play conservatively (didn't want to distract from the benmage quicklynch )

[Antihero]

thought, they might have caught absta if we did do a nameclaim

greyice shouldn't have claimed his real name

[Benmage]

Ninja, BP, RB .... wow.

Vig hits town.. or gets blocked. Or gets watched by watcher and outted for a kill. Lynching a PR and outting another in one awesome blow.

Who the fuck cleared this game as balanced?

Watcher can't see ninja... why give scum a counter to everything town has??? Town is suppose to counter scum zzzz.

[Benmage]

Also why didn't we nameclaim on the last day? I mean I was scum so I rolled with it but...

As disconnected as I was....

Inte, was simply atrocious.

[Leafsnail]

To be fair it should be fairly unlikely for the watcher to watch the vigkill - it would require the vig's top scumpick and the watcher's top townpick to coincide.

[Antihero]

There was a special mechanic for Leaf's roleblock. When he roleblocked someone, he had to protect someone else (it couldn't be one of us or the person he was blocking).

I guess that would have limited the potential for misvigging, but I think this is setup is still pretty heavily scum favored (not like town was really playing well anyway, though).

[Antihero]

You know, I actually started getting paranoid about one of you being usurper at the end there.

[Acosmist]

Ninja, BP, RB .... wow.

Vig hits town.. or gets blocked. Or gets watched by watcher and outted for a kill. Lynching a PR and outting another in one awesome blow.

Who the fuck cleared this game as balanced?

Watcher can't see ninja... why give scum a counter to everything town has??? Town is suppose to counter scum zzzz.

You played terribly, so. zzzz

[shos]

we did, but still I think he realy does have a point >_>

watcher is useless with a ninja scum;
doublevoter will be shot N1 and take out he bodyguard;
doublevoter will then be killed N2 and the watcher will not be useful because of the ninja;
next watcher can only make town kill the vig, and if vig is claimed then he's roleblocked for eternity..

[Acosmist]

9 town and 3 scum

At best for the scum the roleblocker negates an ability. It doesn't add a kill on to the scum. It merely makes a town vanilla. It also doesn't create false information.

The ninja means the watcher fails to get information. Again, it doesn't put false info there. If there were a tracker, the ninja could be tracked and get no result, making the tracker think the ninja did nothing. The interaction with a watcher is to fail to provide info, not to provide false info.

[Acosmist]

So 9 VTs and 3 goons. Not balanced? Ok then.

[Acosmist]

The watcher can't watch someone be roleblocked?

"Hey I saw X target Y."

"I'm Y and I was blocked"

"hey let's lynch X"

[Leafsnail]

So 9 VTs and 3 goons. Not balanced? Ok then.

Yeah that wouldn't be balanced. I mean 11 VTs and 2 goons is the standard right?

[Acosmist]

newbie games are 2 goons to 7 vts

[Antihero]

benmage is just sour grapes. No need to get bent out of shape, Acosmist.

[inte]

He's also an idiot for thinking he can be on every town lynch without repercussions

I called grey out as scum but I can never put a legible case together

[shos]

He's also an idiot for thinking he can be on every town lynch without repercussions

I called grey out as scum but I can never put a legible case together

you should work on that, people who use just one liners or play like you are reaaaaaally hard to get a townread on imo.

[Mr_Ree]

Damn. I had at least 1 scum picked out by the end of day 1. The GrayICE slot I had reserved for a day 3 lynch. If you guys hadn't listened to him we could have done a lot better.

Good Game anyway. I am a little pissed I broke my streak though.

[projectmatt]

I had 2/3 but my play wasn't anything special and I made a goof by quickhammering on Qwints. Eh.

PS: Any quicktopics?

[Leafsnail]

I'd be fine with having the mafia one posted. It's basically me talking to myself until my partners replaced in.

[qwints]

Vig shoots bodyguard. Watcher watches bodyguard's target. Double voter hammers watcher. What a clusterfuck.

Set ups look scum-sided when PRs suck.

[Acosmist]

I had 2/3 but my play wasn't anything special and I made a goof by quickhammering on Qwints. Eh.

PS: Any quicktopics?

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/4nFBJZGtwJx

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/6DfSDxbAjTrc4

[qwints]

Well, my strategy did result in scum protecting watcher day 1. I still find my lynch hard to believe.

[Antihero]

Set ups look scum-sided when PRs suck.

any setup is scum sided when PRs suck