It's probable given SSK's role. I just got "no result". However, at this point it becomes a 1v1 Vaya vs. SSK, so SSK needed to claim his role anyway.Iec wrote:
Is it possible that you were roleblocked, or did the flavor imply specifically that your ability was incompatible with SSK's role?
Yes, quite odd indeed. Checking a sanity I would think would give a 'sane' or 'not sane' or something similar for results.UncertainKitten wrote:It's odd I didn't get a sanity on that.
He also tended to attack SSK over Vaya --Glork wrote:I love Vaya's posting so far. I really do. Many of his thoughts eerily parallel my own, and he's actually digging into the crux of why I voted Pom to begin with. He's very vote-hoppy right now (three vote changes between Posts 356 and 375), but that's not a point against his alignment.
He's not being at all subtle in the Vaya defense, which is odd. (Maybe that last paragraph is intended to moderate the defense a little bit.) Still, I have an easier time believing that he is scumfriends with Vaya than with SSK.Glork wrote:Even if this were a NORMAL game, if a player came out D1 and seriously said they had role-based information to make them 99% certain, you'd want that information out as soon as possible. If SSK is telling the truth and his information can be trusted, we'd be guaranteed a result. If SSK thinks he's telling the truth but his information cannot be trusted, we can gain valuable information about the bastardly nature of the game. If SSK is bullshitting us, we're passing up a golden opportunity to put a scumbag under the microscope on D1.
I'm going to side with Vaya here (SOUND THE MUTUAL BUDDYING ALARMS) and point out what's wrong with SSK's behavior.
1) SSK is claiming to be 99% certain of another player's alignment on D1 of a bastard game. This is... extremely curious to say the least, and I'm not willing to buy into it at all without knowing what can make him so certain of that information in this particular game. Any number of things could go wrong with this. Millers. Death Millers. Cop sanity issues. Changing alignments. Redirections. Scum Protections/Abilities. "Insane" Doctors.
2) SSK claims to have important information but won't reveal it because he doesn't want to be made a target by the scums. I can't even begin to explain how terrible play this is. If the day were to end right here and now, with pseudo-information claimed, that puts SSK at theMOSTrisk of getting nightkilled (if indeed he is legit). Why? Because A) potential Docs/Jailkeepers/Etc. don't know whether they should be protecting him; and B) The Scums can send important information (whether it is accurate or not) to the grave with SSK.
--I don't want anybody to answer this in-game, but I have two rhetorical question for each of you to ponder, given what SSK has said and given the nature of the game: If you were a Doctor, would you be inclined to protect him tonight? If you were Scum, and knew/believed/assumed SSK was not part of your group, would you be inclined to kill SSK tonight?
I'm not saying that I think SSK is scum. Nor am I saying that I think Vaya is town. Fact is, I don't know what either one is (or even what they *might* be), and I'm concerned that some players are being very headstrong, assuming that a pile of partial "information" will give them clarity in what is very clearly a complex game.
The thing is, it's quite likely I was roleblocked. Which I was afraid would happen but it was worth a shot.SP wrote:
Yes, quite odd indeed. Checking a sanity I would think would give a 'sane' or 'not sane' or something similar for results.
'No results' I would think would imply that there isn't a sanity there to check, meaning its hard to be sane or insane when you aren't an information role.
...UncertainKitten wrote:...
/me reads her role.
god...DAMMIT.
I fucked up. I sent my action in the wrong format. That's probably why I got no result. I fucking HATE this bastardliness!
Speculation. But it makes sense. I'll see if that'll get confirmed since I asked the mod about it.
You can confirm that your action was useless because of the format?
Or is that speculation as to why you got no result?
Why should we MC on Day 2?Phate wrote:Hey, I'm alive.
Iecerint, did you honestly miscount, or were you trying to deceive someone into thinking I was that close to lynch?
We're massclaiming today. I adamantly refuse to lynch anyone before we massclaim.
During the massclaim, claim as much of the following as the mod will allow you to: Rolename, traits and abilities of your role, flavor, affiliation, targets, results, and anything that's happened to you. If there's something else relevant I've forgotten, claim that too. Everyone should go ahead and send claims into the mod now to check to see if they're alright, so we don't have to wait for mod permission every time.
Since MafiaSSK has already claimed today, we can popcorn from there. MSSK, choose someone else to claim.
@Everyone: Feel free to claim whatever you like about your roles, just make sure and paraphrase well. Don't quote your role PMs.
I'll reveal this during the massclaim, obviously.Vaya wrote:Phate, who did you target, and did you convert them?
I expect to break the setup.Vaya wrote:Also, what do you expect to gain from a massclaim?
Do you trust Glork? He was pro-massclaim, pro-town, and now dead. What does that tell you?MafiaSSK wrote:Why should we MC on Day 2?Phate wrote:Hey, I'm alive.
Iecerint, did you honestly miscount, or were you trying to deceive someone into thinking I was that close to lynch?
We're massclaiming today. I adamantly refuse to lynch anyone before we massclaim.
During the massclaim, claim as much of the following as the mod will allow you to: Rolename, traits and abilities of your role, flavor, affiliation, targets, results, and anything that's happened to you. If there's something else relevant I've forgotten, claim that too. Everyone should go ahead and send claims into the mod now to check to see if they're alright, so we don't have to wait for mod permission every time.
Since MafiaSSK has already claimed today, we can popcorn from there. MSSK, choose someone else to claim.
@Everyone: Feel free to claim whatever you like about your roles, just make sure and paraphrase well. Don't quote your role PMs.
Do you trust Glork? He was pro-massclaim, pro-town, and now dead. What does that tell you?
SlySly wrote: Mirth lets out a scream rivaling that of Satan after the crucifixion of Jesus was complete in The Passion of The Christ. Her anguish is brought on by watching the members of the Evil Empire, armed with MicroSuck Shitsta Home Edition laptops, surroundand pound him into submission with sales pitches of how much better Shitsta is than XPOS. She sobs quietly as the realization sets in that she will be unable to kill Glork herself in this game.Glork - Guilty
You weren't paying attention, just noticed he died. Suppose he were your scumbuddy. he...Phate wrote:
UK: Why do you think calling Glork pro-town is a scumtell?
Here it is for all who missed it. Good catch Vaya. Honestly, I don't really expect it to break the game either. SlySly is a competent player. I'm assuming he's a competent mod.SlySly wrote:
This isn't one player Super Mario where you download the cheats because you don't have enough patience to play the game correctly. Why do people join a game of mafia and try to break it? Do they think it will get them on the good side of that mod? They need to go make a complex, nonstandard game and recruit gamebreakers to play it so they can see how it feels to have players refusing to play in the spirit of the game. That said, mass claim if you like. It ain't going to break the game.