NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Norlkaz]

If it's Titus / Casso then I've only ever voted scum since my WORMSIGN post (except for the SAD hiccup, for which I blame attempting to think at 9am after insufficient sleep).
That would be cool.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Unvote
Vote: Titus

Yes I'm still on V/LA.

[Empire]

Day 6, Final Votecount

Titus (6)(LYNCH)

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pieguyn, KoreanBBQ, Sakura Hana, Norlkaz, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (2)

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Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (1)

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Titus

Norlkaz (1)

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Prophylaxis

Not Voting (1)

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goodmorning

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is on February 27th at 11:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2014-02-28 00:28:28).

Mod Notes

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Sakura Hana is V/LA until Tuesday. goodmorning is V/LA until Tuesday. Ser Arthur Dayne is V/LA until Friday.

[Empire]

Titus,

Vanilla Townie

, lynched Day 6.

It is now Night 6! Day 7 will begin on February 21st at 3:20 PM EST or in (expired on 2014-02-21 16:18:39).

[Empire]

Just a heads up that I am V/LA until the 24th so I will probably be slow on things. Thread should open at around the same time though. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Empire]

F-16_Fighting_Falcon,

Vanilla Townie

, killed Night 6.

It is now Day 7! Deadline is on March 7th at 3:25 PM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-07 16:22:01).

[Empire]

Day 7, Votecount 1

Not Voting (9)

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Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal, Prophylaxis, pieguyn, Norlkaz, KoreanBBQ, goodmorning, Sakura Hana, Ser Arthur Dayne

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! Deadline is on March 7th at 3:25 PM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-07 16:22:01).

Mod Notes

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N/A

[Casso the King of Seals]

We're a VT. Claim when you arrive.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I shouldn't be relieved when seeing a town flip but I am very relieved regardless.

[pieguyn]

I'm VT

[KoreanBBQ]

Only need claims from

Prophylaxis
Norlkaz
Sakura Hana

[pieguyn]

anyway I did some rereading and I have a strong POE on SAD and Norl at this point. if one of them is wrong, swap out Sakura or worst case scenario BBQ

also I don't think the Casso-Sakura interactions throughout the entire game make any sense at all from Casso-scum regardless of Sakura's alignment. -> Casso town

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Cool, now that we're done with stupid lynches, perhaps we can actually lynch scum?

AKA Norl/Casso

[pieguyn]

didn't you say you agreed with my analysis? why the flip flop

and how'd you go from waffling on me to "so town it hurts"?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

also I don't think the Casso-Sakura interactions throughout the entire game make any sense at all from Casso-scum regardless of Sakura's alignment. -> Casso town

I still don't see your point about Casso being town if it's not Sakura/Casso scumteam.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

didn't you say you agreed with my analysis? why the flip flop

Oh I did. Which is why I should start ignoring everyone's opinions and focus on my own alone

and how'd you go from waffling on me to "so town it hurts"?

Because... you're so town it hurts?

Are you saying my reads are supposed to progress as the game moves

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

aren't*

[Norlkaz]

Well that sucks.
VT
Now that there's no chance of non-mediocre reads this game, it's time to focus on just winning.
Did Mara / GM actually confirm their daytalk? Because if not I want one of them to post a hard puzzle or math problem and the other to post the answer / explanation within 1 minute of each other.

Sorry to disappoint you, but there's no significant chance of lynching me this game.
It turns out I'm town, I'm here, and my volume is only going to go up.

[pieguyn]

ok. let's suppose I'm scum and Sakura is town

first off, some backstory. Sakura was the one who introduced me to MS. I came over here bc I saw she came over here and she inspired me. she replaced in my first newbie game (which she ended up beating me as scum in and I'm still butthurt about it) and made me feel the sheer agony of defeat, and we've played several games together here which include a few where we got a bunch of people from my homesite to sign up and raid games all at once. she stuck me with a "can't read Sakura" card ever since said newbie game and she's took full advantage of it making fun of me in subsequent games. we've got many hours BS'ing around in IRC mafia. we have a lot of fun playing together and at some point I wanna hydra with her

meanwhile, I became acquainted with her own story on MS. how she used to be obvtown all the time and then how she slowly started to react worse and worse to pressure. and how she blew up and ragequit several times

now I know Sakura was starting to not enjoy mafia anymore and that she was having a lot of RL problems and getting really stressed out bc of work. and I knew how in FEA she shut down and replaced out of all her games when she got wagoned on D1. I also knew in a game offsite that was ongoing at the time that she was starting to get angry after being lynched as scum bc she was doing the exact same thing as town. it's p obvious she's starting to lose all interest in mafia and not wanna deal with it anymore, especailly with her current RL situation

so suppose I have the chance to deadline lynch her D1 of this game. I know all the stuff that's going on with her RL and how she's not enjoying this game anymore. and so if I deadline lynch her I know exactly what will happen. all of a sudden someone who's a good friend of mine and who I love playing with, the person who brought me here in the first place, isn't here anymore and has lost all motivation to play mafia. and idk how long it'd be until I get to play with her again if ever

there is no way in hell I would take that opportunity. I'd go for someone else and move on

and I think Nacho's relationship with Sakura is very similar to mine. so I don't think Nacho would do something like that just for the sake of getting a mislynch when there are so many other people he could pick

but maybe that's just me

that's the best I can explain it. if you don't get it at this point, oh fucking well

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Sorry to disappoint you, but there's no significant chance of lynching me this game.
It turns out I'm town, I'm here, and my volume is only going to go up.

See like this doesn't actually work when you don't read town.

Also it look dangerously close to the scum's "I'm obv town whoever wants to lynch me is stupid" thought.

Interesting.

[pieguyn]

aren't*

no, I wanna know the reason for said progression

also the way you called it a stupid lynch sounds like you thought that's what it was before the actual lynch. you're lamenting everyone else for what you thought was a "stupid lynch" which makes it sound like you were always against her lynch. at this point it feels like you're just trying to distance from your previous stance and get towncred from her flip

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

@Pie okay I might see your point (even though I think people should play the game emotionally detached in game (versus out of game) but w/e).

[pieguyn]

also Casso/Sakura team doesn't work bc Sakura's early read on Casso makes no sense for a scum-scum interaction. iirc it went town -> scum -> back to town and it kept flip flopping. ex. this post:

On further re-read, geists still hasn't done what i'd expect them to be doing by now, Also i'm retracting my townread on Casso and flipping it over. Nacho doesnt give easy townreads like that and it's bothering me like hell all.

Current reads:
Town: Maracabd, goodmorning, Bert, DOMO.
Leaning Town: Korean BBQ.
Leaning Scum: geists
Scumreads: Casso, SC.

Everyone else is null.

this doesn't seem like a read scum fakes on a scumbuddy. so given Casso-scum/Sakura-town and Casso/Sakura team are both impossible, Casso is town

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

also the way you called it a stupid lynch sounds like you thought that's what it was before the actual lynch. you're lamenting everyone else for what you thought was a "stupid lynch" which makes it sound like you were always against her lynch.

Umm well yeah I always had this deep gut feeling that she was town (see my thoughts on her before I agreed with you) and basically got "peer pressured" (idk I hate that term but can't think of something better atm) into thinking she was scum.

[pieguyn]

@Pie okay I might see your point (even though I think people should play the game emotionally detached in game (versus out of game) but w/e).

this is in a similar boat to the blacklist tell. even if you don't play emotionally there's some points where you end up crossing the line. the blacklist tell is one of these in that theoretically there's no base for it but in practice it's p accurate. this is the same thing

also plz explain your read on me