Mini 1051: Utopia Mafia - Game Over

[Shanba]

Kast: my case wasn't bullshit, but whatever.

[JDodge]

JD, good job MVP for scum team . You're welcome to never play with me again. We won, despite your best efforts, and you'll probably have better luck if you drop your ego a few notches and actually take pointers from how the "newer" players find scum. Hint- it involves actually reading the game. Hint2- it also involves basing conclusions off the evidence instead of tunneling on your preconceptions and ignoring everything in the actual game.

Actually, I do understand how the newer players play, but I think it's a sticky, foul-smelling spunk-flavored popsicle. There is no such thing as evidence, and more importantly, it's worth noting that (as you will note by the fact that I was no longer making an active attempt at defending him) I felt that my goals for day 2 were to A) confirm myself as town and B) drag out the day to get as much information as possible by preventing the quick railroading of Shanba. Do you

really think

we would have formed the eventual game-winning bloc if day 2 had ended with a quicklynch?

So let's see; things I was right on:

1. Exe lynch stopped distracting the town and allowed us to focus on scumhunting;
2. VP Baltar was the correct protection choice for N1;
3. Shanba was the correct lynch for D2, but not until we had a chance for proper discussion;
4. eldarad was scum;
5. VP Baltar was a power role;
6. Flameaxe was a power role;
7. The PM in the second post was the vanilla townie PM.

Two of those

you were vehemently opposed to

.

[Kast]

@Shanba-
Yes, it actually was.

@JD-
You were wrong about almost everything (especially your suspicions) almost all game. Note the players who actually used evidence actually figured out who the scum were from that, instead of doing what you did and deciding on everyone on D1 then never changing your mind despite being wrong. FYI, just because you dislike and insult how the rest of town played, does not mean the town actually played badly.

As for your list:
1. Exe was town; you were wrong.
2. You were right to protect VPB. Good job. I don't recall being opposed to protecting VPB, but since you weren't reading my posts, I guess it's not surprising that you didn't know that.
3. You were wrong about Shanba on D1 and D2. Even up to his lynch you maintained that he was a townie. Your claim that this is something you were "right" about is your ego crying out.
4. You weren't pushing Eldarad as scum. Your explicitly claimed suspects for the majority of the game were Kast, Fishy, and DDD (everyone who went after Shanba).
5. VPB was a PR, this is double counting point 2. Nobody doubted this.
6. Flameaxe claimed PR on D1 and everyone believed him.
7. You were right about the VT PM because you had private information that told you as much. Nobody disagreed with you on that once you claimed. You refused to read or consider what VPB or I posted about Shanba's VT claim which was a lie and differed from the VT PM.

[Exe]

Actually, wait a minute and let me point something out here.

1. Exe lynch stopped distracting the town and allowed us to focus on scumhunting;

NO.
Exe lynch DISTRACTED the town from lynching the CAUGHT SCUM (Shanba) and STOPPED the focus on scumhunting until day 2.
Just lose the ego. I'm tired of you trying to claim you somehow saved the town by lynching me. The only thing I gave the town was scum reads on Eldarad (and Shanba based on the obvious omgsaveshanba).

[Kast]

@JD-
Your entire (game relevant) contributions to this game can be summed up as:
1. Protect Shanba because he is bored of the mafia.
2. Policy lynch Exe because Exe got mad that Flameaxe called him stupid.
3. Bodyguard VPB.
4. Try to get the people pushing Shanba to be lynched instead.
4.1. If that fails, delay the Shanba lynch as much as possible.
5. Despite best efforts, town kills all scum. CLAIM CREDIT FOR TOWN WIN!!!

The DDD, Fishy, Kast, VPB "bloc" already realized Shanba/Eldarad as scum from D1. For that matter, Exe realized Shanba-scum too and likely would have gone along with Fishy and me pushing Eldarad. The end of D1 posting left a2rudeboy, Erg0, and Rayfrost as the possible final scum members with plenty of mislynches to kill all three (and clearly Ray was fine with lynching either of Shanba/Eldarad). You were the biggest obstacle to a clean town victory.

You did good in protecting VPB. Congratz.

[RayFrost]

Guys, guys, quit the argument. It's worthless.

[MeMe]

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