Newbie 988-Apocalypse(Over)-Scum win

[Beanman]

@Pac, Your wrong on your first, second, and fourth analysis. Also, You should know by now that you can't ever tell me what to do.

Vote:pacman281292

For being scum

[Cliquey]

lol.

[Beanman]

EBWOP

V/LA till sunday.

[Cliquey]

Its like Bean is pulling a gambit or something

[tanstalas]

Pacman, if I can set up a false dichotomy for you; if there were 2 votes on me and 2 on bean and you were the only member of the town, who would you cast the hammervote on and why?

Tans, I pose you the same question.

Beanman, without a doubt. I am starting to lean towards him for a few reasons, most specifically his rants back on day one where he was sure that dekes and I were a scum team together and then Dekes gets lynched and well, there goes our doctor. I also defended myself against his crazy delusional theories back on D1, and asked him to explain himself in my ISO-38 - He never did, though he did go on a rant on how he "caught" Dekes and I in D1, voted himself (claimed it wasn't AtE).

He has also been spreading suspicion around on everyone that has been in this game, since he can't convince people he is obv-town he is probably trying to make everyone else look just a tad scummier to make him look more pro-town.

FoS: Beanman

[Fenhl]

I'm back!

[…]@Tux-same as Fenhl[…]

Did I miss something? I'm Tux!
Now on to reading again…

[Beanman]

Sorry cancel that mod, I got my dates mixed up.

I want to point out a few interesting facts. Beginning of day 2, Pac calls Tux(now Fenhl's) move at the end of day 2 stupid. After giving the other person ample amount of time to defend, didn't ask for a claim himself, and hammered. At the end of day 2, After giving the other person ample amount of time, to defend, Pac didn't ask for a claim and hammered(You never know if people will unvote, based on a claim, that is why you always ask for one...) We had plenty of time. You weren't moving progression, you were stalling. Just pointing out he has used his own logic against himself, and that Pac has basically called his hammer stupid, w/o him even realizing it. I find much humor in this. However like Cliquey has stated numurous times, bad play does not equal scum. My read on Pac is purely gut, and Tant's protection of this role day 1, which I'm about to explain. Although interesting, all 4 roles have posted, no quick lynch....

Tant, Interesting you bring up my suspicions on you during day 1. My suspicions were based around your lazy gameplay(which you have fully admitted to in your first post day 3 that your lazy) and the fact the you were opportunistic. You were opportunistic in joining bandwagons. You joined kyle's wagon(now Cliquey.) I had to fight tooth and nail to break that complete bunch of bullshit wagon up. Then your "2nd most scummy player" MoB(now Pac) had a wagon, but unlike kyle who it was ok for you to put at L-1, ***you thought you put him at L-1 when you voted***, you didn't think it ok to put MoB at L-1. Then you fail at trying to start a wagon on me. Then, (and this is the most obviously opportunistic wagoning of all) you vote Dekes, putting him at L-1(something you would not do to MoB(pac)). The best part of this vote, is that you state you don't even think Dekes is scum. You have no problem that either lynch was unclaimed. And you were part of 2 bandwagons during day 2. That's pretty damn opportunistic if I ever saw it. Also, you've spread just as much suspicion to everyone still here, which means you are also trying to make everyone else look just a tad scummer to make yourself look more pro-town, ya hypocrite.

Cliquey, I had a newb town read on tux, and your AtS was right about McG and Yourself, so I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt with Fenhl as well. That leaves 3 of us possible scum. Me, Pac, and Tant. I went through hell to destroy that wagon on your role early day one. I alienated myself, and made myself look like a scum partner, to your role. Really if I was scum, I would have just hammered. I see the WIFOM, but I'm really not smart enough to be scum pulling that off. I am cool with lynching either Pac or Tant, as I think they're scum. I am not wholly against killing fenhl if you really think he's scum, but the odds are more likely he's not scum.

Or you can actually vote me, they can quicklynch, and you can be proven wrong. I'm really cool with either.

However my patience is pretty much at it's end.

[Jackabomb]

Vote count 3.2
Pacman-

Beanman;

Tanstalas-

;

Cliquey-

;

Beanman-

;

Fenhl-

;

Not voting-

Cliquey, Tanstalas, Pacman, Fenhl;

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no lynch.
19 days until deadline.

[Cliquey]

ITT bean realizes he can't use his vote as a gambit to clear himself. Bean also realizes that he can't lynch me anymore and starts buddying up to me. He also uses my statistics which have been dragged through the mud and used as every kind of attack at me to now preemptively defend Fenhl

[Fenhl]

This is getting interesting.
I think I'll start participating before finishing the Archive Binge.
For now I'd just like to ask Beanman how you can get a town read on me based on the few things I've written? Or are you basing that on Tux?
Also, my main suspects are Beanman and pacman.
They might even both be scum (keyword: bussing)
For now I'll

FoS: pacman

to get him to talk more.

[Fenhl]

Wait, are we even allowed to write boldface FoS?

@Mod: please clarify

[Jackabomb]

Yes.

[pacman281292]

Before making the analysis I said I was doing, I want to point out some scummy stuff Bean is saying:

@Pac, Your wrong on your first, second, and fourth analysis. Also, You should know by now that you can't ever tell me what to do.

Vote:pacman281292

For being scum

What.
You can't tell me what to do either. That's what I said into my post.
Go misread someone else.

FoS: Bean

I want to point out a few interesting facts. Beginning of day 2, Pac calls Tux(now Fenhl's) move at the end of day 2 stupid.
... At the end of day 2, After giving the other person ample amount of time, to defend, Pac didn't ask for a claim and hammered(You never know if people will unvote, based on a claim, that is why you always ask for one...) We had plenty of time. You weren't moving progression, you were stalling.

I had a null read on Dekes, so I didn't like his lynch much. Dekes didn't help much either, but had we waited/requested a claim he wouldn't have been lynched.
I hope I already explained my hammer. McG was being no use for the town. I saw we WERE stalling out, and I thought that the hammer might be some use. I was wrong, and not only lynched a townie, but the discussion stalled even worse.
So yeah, my attempt was stupid. *headdesk*. What else do you want me to do?

Although interesting, all 4 roles have posted, no quick lynch....

It is also interesting, if you ask me. And that means you should be scum, actually.

...

Vote: Beanman.

If I wasn't speedlynched, it means Bean should be the scum we're looking for!
(Or that scums are total jerks. Or that I'm scum. But I'm no scum, in fact.)
Now working on the other post.

[Cliquey]

Bean's gambit: setting himself up to be bussed!?

You skipped over my question,pacman, and responded only to Bean (and answered it, but only in action not in logic)

Fenhl, does this mean you are caught up and we can begin palaver?

[pacman281292]

You skipped over my question,pacman, and responded only to Bean (and answered it, but only in action not in logic)

As things have came up, the answer is quite obvious. I'd vote Bean (and I'm voting him right away), but for more technical reasons (like, I didn't get scumspeedlynched after that vote). If you wanted a more analytical question, you will have to wait.

[Beanman]

Cliquey. I have stated this 2 times already

I HAVE 2 count them 2 win conditions. If either condition is met, I win. It's not that hard. I've mentioned this twice already.

1. we can team OR
2. I prove you wrong.

You having tunnel vision on me, makes condition 2 win so much easier.

In 12 hours I'm self voting to get one of my win conditions. Mod never address my issues with insults. I said my patience was done. I'm good winning by proving you wrong Cliquey.

[Beanman]

EBWOP-I'm actually been having fun proving Cliquey wrong, as it's SOOOOOO freaking easy. And wouldn't ya know? Easy is fun? Heh.

[Beanman]

EBWO3P

Find it interesting that Pac vote me over cliquey when we BOTH voted dekes day one. each because we THOUGHT he was scum. AND YET FAILS COMPLETELY TO MENTION WHO PUT DEKES AT L-1 WITHOUT EVEN THINKING THEY WERE SCUM. PROTECTING YOUR SCUM PARTNER LIKE HE DID TO YOU DAY 1 PAC? OBV SCUM TEAM IS OBV. CLIQUEY YOU FAIL SO HARD IF YOU DON'T SEE THIS...

[pacman281292]

EBWO3P

Find it interesting that Pac vote me over cliquey when we BOTH voted dekes day one. each because we THOUGHT he was scum. AND YET FAILS COMPLETELY TO MENTION WHO PUT DEKES AT L-1 WITHOUT EVEN THINKING THEY WERE SCUM. PROTECTING YOUR SCUM PARTNER LIKE HE DID TO YOU DAY 1 PAC? OBV SCUM TEAM IS OBV. CLIQUEY YOU FAIL SO HARD IF YOU DON'T SEE THIS...

I AM NOT VOTING YOU OVER CLIQUEY B/C OF DEKES' LYNCH. I JUST SAID THAT I CALLED TUX'S HAMMER STUPID BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE DEKES AS ACTUAL SCUM.
Stop putting words I didn't say into my mouth. You're scum, I voted you because you are obvscum (everyone posted without speedlynching, I'm not scum ergo you are scum), and if you keep saying things I didn't say you will look even scummier.

[pacman281292]

EBWOP: Sorry, just pissed of @Bean's new stunt to get people to lynch me.

[Beanman]

you didnt like the lynch yet, yet you looking at me and not the person who put him at L-1 w/o thinking he was scum? and who's my partner? you fail sir. good omgus vote btw. wuts ur case on me? ur pissed... good case mate.

[Beanman]

also where's ur analysis?

@ fenhl, newbtown read on ur pred.

proof im right and Cliquey wrong self voting 6 hours.

[Cliquey]

Yes, its pro-town to throw a hissy fit, self vote and not give the replacement sufficient time.

[Beanman]

bah fine, I'll give it another 24 hours.

[Fenhl]

[…]Fenhl, does this mean you are caught up and we can begin palaver?

1. No
2. Yes
Also @beanman You do realize that I'd hammer you if you selfvote?