TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

[Alisae]

I think chilling is +town

[Alisae]

but these past few pages generated some content which is like good

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@58 those aren't explanations except 31 which was after my post.

After your post and BEFORE MINE Ythan.

And they ARE explinations. They require you to do a little research of the OPEN GAME TYPE and its history, but if you ASKED ME FOR THAT maybe I'd have done that work for you instead of having this stupid fight where I literally just want to fucking tell you to fuck off

Idk why you're being hyper aggressive but like I'm not so we can chill if you would prefer that.

I'm so far beyond chill with the person who was offered multiple chances to actually engage with my argument and chose not to.

So far beyond chill. You intentionally tried to tilt me to either try and read me or because you're scum. Either way, congrats, I'm tilted, you accomplished your goal.

[Ythan]

eyeroll

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think chilling is +town

Maybe it is, I'm sort of incandescently angry that I literally tried to make this player engage with the actual argument like 4 fuckign times and they chose to tilt me and only NOW are they like "woah let's calm down"

when it looks good for them to say it and makes me look like a fucking psychopath for being angry when I have GOODFUCKING REASON dfhskal FUCK dude

[Ythan]

but also <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

eyeroll

Welcome to the Haystack

[Ythan]

And you're totally engaging with my argument, uhuh

[Alisae]

I think chilling is +town

Maybe it is, I'm sort of incandescently angry that I literally tried to make this player engage with the actual argument like 4 fuckign times and they chose to tilt me and only NOW are they like "woah let's calm down"

when it looks good for them to say it and makes me look like a fucking psychopath for being angry when I have GOODFUCKING REASON dfhskal FUCK dude

I feel like you think everyone is just out to get you.

[Alisae]

And you're totally engaging with my argument, uhuh

I think what you're doing w/ your current posting is just trying to provoke LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but also <3

nah no fuckin' hearts i'm legit upset

this is a fucking null neutral strategy that you had the opportunity at any time to engage with or do even the slightest amount of work to see why anyone would believe this and instead you're like "nope nah seems fake bro" and while I try to explain it to alisae it's jsut more of that the whole time

i am about to burst into fucking tears because i'm so tired of dealing with people who just discredit me when I say shit like this without even doing the work to see if I'm RIGHT first

do you know how FRUSTRATING that is

[Alisae]

It's a good interaction but it's late and I don't think people should be waking up to 8+ pages of you two just flinging shit at each other. That's just +scum I believe

[Ythan]

but also <3

nah no fuckin' hearts i'm legit upset

this is a fucking null neutral strategy that you had the opportunity at any time to engage with or do even the slightest amount of work to see why anyone would believe this and instead you're like "nope nah seems fake bro" and while I try to explain it to alisae it's jsut more of that the whole time

i am about to burst into fucking tears because i'm so tired of dealing with people who just discredit me when I say shit like this without even doing the work to see if I'm RIGHT first

do you know how FRUSTRATING that is

It's like you haven't read a single one of my posts since I voted you. Your reaction is unbelievable, I think I made that pretty clear but if not it's explicit now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but also <3

nah no fuckin' hearts i'm legit upset

this is a fucking null neutral strategy that you had the opportunity at any time to engage with or do even the slightest amount of work to see why anyone would believe this and instead you're like "nope nah seems fake bro" and while I try to explain it to alisae it's jsut more of that the whole time

i am about to burst into fucking tears because i'm so tired of dealing with people who just discredit me when I say shit like this without even doing the work to see if I'm RIGHT first

do you know how FRUSTRATING that is

It's like you haven't read a single one of my posts since I voted you. Your reaction is unbelievable, I think I made that pretty clear but if not it's explicit now.

fucking HOW

you said "i don't believe it" and I said "I'm explaining it" and started explaining it to the PERSON ASKING ME QUESITONS ABOUT IT and you went "lul didn't already explain it" and made points about PRIOR POSTS when I said I was EXPLAINING IT FURTHER and instead of fuckign asking me questions about WHY I believe what I believe you just continue to believe I'm full of shit based on ???.

I've been reading your fucking posts. You're not engaging with me on the thing you need to engage with, instead you're just going "you're not reading, you're not explaining" when I'm syaing "okay then engage and I'll explain more!"

[Rad]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

right but this is inverted. I have 0 incentive as either alignment to show this to you and it's sort of weird you asked. Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

If I can't find one, I'm realistically proving myself town to you.

If I can find one, I'm proving myself town to you by being open.

there's no world I come out worse from that interaction so I don't get its purpose

[implosion]

Certainly, here are a few possible reactions the person may say:

• "Oh no, I can't believe this just happened! My snowglobe filled with precious xenon gas is ruined!"
  
• "Stop! Stop! Please stop, Roomba! You just ran over my snowglobe filled with xenon gas!"
  
• "This is a disaster. I don't know what to do. I have to salvage what I can of the snowglobe and make sure the xenon gas doesn't cause any harm."
  
• "I can't believe I was so careless. I should have been more careful with my snowglobe and the precious xenon gas inside."
  
• "I need to call for help. I can't handle this on my own. I need someone who knows how to deal with a situation like this."

Vote Count 1.1

imaginality (2): Lady Lambdadelta, Alisae
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Ythan

Not Voting (10): Bellaphant, Cephrir, Datisi, Gimli, imaginality, Marashu, Menalque, mith, Rad, Staeg
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is April 27 at 10:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-04-28 01:00:00).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

like to be clear I bothered to press you on it because giving me an easy townread for something like that does't really help me read you and it's just not going to be true a large swath of the time anyway.

so I'd rather you look into other things and read me on that eventually giving me an opportunity to read you as a result.

[Rad]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

right but this is inverted. I have 0 incentive as either alignment to show this to you and it's sort of weird you asked. Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

If I can't find one, I'm realistically proving myself town to you.

If I can find one, I'm proving myself town to you by being open.

there's no world I come out worse from that interaction so I don't get its purpose

There's no good reason to tell me that my townie read on you is wrong except for 1) it's a bad read by me because you can easily pull this off as scum and you're legit upset and threw that out there as frustrated town, or 2) you're scum and telling me not to town read you is easy bonus townie points.

Yeah I can deep dive your past games to find out but it's hour 1 of day 1 and I'm about to fall asleep so I figured I would ask you instead.

[Ythan]

We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war like you know I am susceptible to but if that's the case your error was in not accounting for the fact that I like you.

[Alisae]

fwiw i'm probably giving lld the day pass.
developed gamestates are the best gamestates to try to read LLD in

[Alisae]

We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war

didn't you start it?

[Rad]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

like to be clear I bothered to press you on it because giving me an easy townread for something like that does't really help me read you and it's just not going to be true a large swath of the time anyway.

so I'd rather you look into other things and read me on that eventually giving me an opportunity to read you as a result.

You can get a read on me through other interactions. Not everything I say about you has to give you a read on me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.

this is null for me, don't town read me for this

I'm literally executing understood and practiced game theory for this game there's nothing here that scum me doesn't do.

Do you have a game you can link to that you opened this emotionally aggressively as scum?

Why would I show you that?

Like, what I am doing is neutral, but you're asking me to show you if I'm this aggressive as scum.

The townie in me wants to say "no" and maybe you don't find one, but the answer is undoubtably yes I just don't have one in mind because it's common enough as an occurance.

Because you bothered to press what I thought was townie was neutral, so why not take it a step further and show me you're capable of it as scum proving the neutral read?

right but this is inverted. I have 0 incentive as either alignment to show this to you and it's sort of weird you asked. Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

If I can't find one, I'm realistically proving myself town to you.

If I can find one, I'm proving myself town to you by being open.

there's no world I come out worse from that interaction so I don't get its purpose

There's no good reason to tell me that my townie read on you is wrong except for 1) it's a bad read by me because you can easily pull this off as scum and you're legit upset and threw that out there as frustrated town, or 2) you're scum and telling me not to town read you is easy bonus townie points.

Yeah I can deep dive your past games to find out but it's hour 1 of day 1 and I'm about to fall asleep so I figured I would ask you instead.

Real reason is above you, and neither of these. I'm not so egotistical that I won't take a free townread as town when I think it benefits me even if it's for a wrong reason. Nah it's that I have no idea who you are and I want you not able to sit on a laurels of a read on me and be forced to read me in a way I can read you.

As for games... I dunno, man. I can try and find one recently for you, or you can ask Alisae who is literally here and in this game and she'll confirm it's something I have done and can do.

I mean I guess you can look at Election, actually. I got this emotional against Cakez on day 1, so.