[Nightmare 1] Weird Dreams Mafia

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I prefer enchant to get FN over drew tbh

[Gimli]

agree with enchant getting FN

[Morning Tweet]

Drew would be more useful if confirmed as town IMO

But I think Enchant would have a higher chance of being scum

Enchant has like no associatives because he isn't reading anyone for whatevert reason, Drew we proooobably stand to gain more if we learned he is scum

But Drew might be more readable through dayplay than Enchant so there's that

I come out still preferring Drew but that's not a bad pick either, curious what others think

[Gimli]

the problem with doing the things you want is that you're scaring me

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

regardless the person who recieves FN invention has to hint in someway they have it. if they do naturally they are either town or scum can see this chat. there is no need to act so public who has FN so we can protect their life

and then with visiting next night and the result they get we will get some sort of a double parity cop check.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

the problem with doing the things you want is that you're scaring me

I think that day 1 was messy but this night actions can put some light in the play.

I think imaginality is the scummiest slot in game at the moment. their mindset formation is fake, their backs and forth were really fake and I didn't like it at all.

Porkens was rangers top scum read so for that I still sus him, but I need to see if anyone claims rangers death or not and how that angle plays out.

also am not getting clone scum reads. its pretty much a no show slot.

So I think scum is trying to push toward easy baits over the big trees or town is being lazy cause its easier to go after such slots over the actual content makers?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

anyone has a meta with porkens? is he usually a "lazy town" throwing random reads and not working on them in early game?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

anyways I'm gonna say this after so much self-thinking that if we giving away FN, we should consider having the person with FN to target flea

I can't explain exactly why even in here cause I'm not sure if this chat is safe for claims. but lets just say if that happens there will be mechanics to somehow expand the results we get from this check.

and how I know this is something I'm not willing to share either

+ flea is a null read for all I suppose so if they target him and based on what flea says we got extra results to follow on later days.

anyways I'm not willing to directly push for this in thread tomorrow (for reasons that I wont say again), would appreciate if you guys suggest/recommend it to the player who holds FN if you're willing without dragging me in it with that info.

I'm not gonna answer any questions about it tbh so don't bother to ask. But if you're willing to follow this info, I had obligations to share it here with you all.

[Gimli]

lets give fn to enchant and I'll tell enchant to do it

he'll do it

[Gimli]

also I know how I should play the mechanics, I should let enchant out the fn first

we don't talk about fn until he says something, yeah?

[TemporalLich]

Good idea, Enchant is more of a unsorted slot

[TemporalLich]

And yeah don't out the FN early

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

also I know how I should play the mechanics, I should let enchant out the fn first

we don't talk about fn until he says something, yeah?

we shouldn't make him claim outright

but it would be good to have them soft it somehow. if enchant does it that means they either scum and saw this chat somehow or they are town which is a big info

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

not just outright, whoever gets FN should keep it hidden till night and then after using skill claim it. otherwise scum can manipulate the check

[Gimli]

ah I see. I understand.

he might openclaim it though

idk how im gonna tell him to target flea if the info isnt out in the open but ill figure something out

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

again my main concern with FN is the player who we give it to (if is scum), if knows about what we doing in nightmare somehow, can fool us and claim they got the result targeted a random someone but something stopped the action and we wont be able to verify that part

and if they are town, and scum see this chat, they can still stop that action for real somehow

and we wont have a way to verify that part

technically a vig can be stopped too, so lets just hope scums are not seeing it here cause it can make the whole check or kill idea useless

[Gimli]

thats why I said give me a vig and I'll kill people cause the hood might be dirty

[Gimli]

scum will not target me

I softed that bad things happen if people visit me

[Gimli]

they won't take the chance for a vig that's just shredding the poe trust me

just let me have the vig

[Gimli]

when you said FN is better I thought 'okay she sees something I don't' but if you're now coming to the conclusion that FN is also hard to make it work and can go wrong in multiple manners, then lets just do the simple thing and kill scummy slots

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

well I'm saying if FN works it will be big info on multiple fronts. if enchant gets FN and gets blocked, we either catch scum in 3d with an investigative role we might have set, or we know there is a scum reading this chat somehow.

vig wont be different from FN in that, cause vig can be blocked too. you gotta live for 1 day and night to be able to use it and not get blocked, so every thing we invent has same concerns to them

[Morning Tweet]

i just noticed Gimli saying shenanigans happen if scum tries to get in between him and his gun. That's not a terrible option then. Whether Gimli gets shot or not it sounds good.

Assuming the thing that happens when scum attacks Gimli is good then there isn't really a way the vig shot can go wrong. I think the FN would work too most of the time but there is a chance scum could roleblock that person. Giving GImli the vig shot doesnt have that problem

[TemporalLich]

scum will not target me

I softed that bad things happen if people visit me

yeah with this softclaim I think giving vigilante to Gimli is ideal

[DragonEater70]

anyways I'm gonna say this after so much self-thinking that if we giving away FN, we should consider having the person with FN to target flea

I can't explain exactly why even in here cause I'm not sure if this chat is safe for claims. but lets just say if that happens there will be mechanics to somehow expand the results we get from this check.

and how I know this is something I'm not willing to share either

+ flea is a null read for all I suppose so if they target him and based on what flea says we got extra results to follow on later days.

anyways I'm not willing to directly push for this in thread tomorrow (for reasons that I wont say again), would appreciate if you guys suggest/recommend it to the player who holds FN if you're willing without dragging me in it with that info.

I'm not gonna answer any questions about it tbh so don't bother to ask. But if you're willing to follow this info, I had obligations to share it here with you all.

Sounds intriguing, willing to trust you on that even though very unsure of why.

FYI Flea shouldn't be referred to as him. Their preferred pronouns are listed, and they also accept the use of they/them.

[DragonEater70]

ah I see. I understand.

he might openclaim it though

idk how im gonna tell him to target flea if the info isnt out in the open but ill figure something out

You can just say (after they soft FN) "whoever got FN, please target the player 6 slots above you on the playerlist"