Micro 1069: Korina Runs Another GIM [Finale]

[Radical Rat]

No, because that says ALL players die, not just scum

[MegAzumarill]

Ah

[Radical Rat]

Still, that is very good information to have, also it maximizes use out of the IC because of furtive, so.

[MegAzumarill]

Probably don't lead with it then. We can use that info later today better if they do want to claim.

[MegAzumarill]

IC isn't much good informationwise if it just means we sort one less player. Better if people have already given reads on ic and we can read on those.

[Radical Rat]

Fair enough, but I think the associated setup information is good enough that they should claim before the end of the day at least

[biancospino]

I didn't realize there was an option where all scum are pirates and die n4. In that case yeah they probably should claim if they exist because if they don't doesn't no limming until they die win?

Also, scum may not all die.

Pirate Fruit Vendor (Pirate is your alignment. Pirates have a factional kill.)
Each night you may give target player a fruit of your choice.

[Radical Rat]

Actually now that I'm thinking about it we can get the same information from any non-Pirate scumflip. Maybe they should wait until D2.

[biancospino]

If they exist and claim now, we get a guaranteed two days of IC.

This flew over my head, but now that I notice this doesn't seem right. If there is a Caribbean claim, then furtive

may

be the mod-choice version of the global rb, since no reroll would have happened; if there is no such Caribbean Townie, then a reroll happened and then furtive could not be non-town global rb.

If we enact a policy that they must claim, we get exactly one IC in any case, and on top we may get confirmation that this is singleball. I'm also not entirely sure that there is too much to be gained from waiting until D2, since presumably nobody should be slayed tonight barring strongmen and the like

[Radical Rat]

Carries the caveat in an earlier post of assuming furtive was telling the truth.

But it is the necessity of that assumption, and Meg being right that an IC is more useful once we have reads/flips to apply to analysis that makes me think D2 might just be better.

[Gamma Emerald]

In the GIM thread. It's a 1-shot global rb (mod chooses alignment)

Okay
So basically furtive could be any alignment here

[Gamma Emerald]

:/

[biancospino]

By the way, I just asked the mod to clarify something in my role and it's even more bastard than I thought. Really it may be actually quite useful, but still I'm kind of pissed.
/rant over

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Looker

[biancospino]

For not agreeing with Nono or for failing to clarify itself after being asked?

[furtiveglance]

General sense that Looker could be mafia

[Radical Rat]

@Mod

Regarding the Cult clause, would that take priority over the pirate retheme if that were rolled, or would the pirate retheme mean no cult?

[MegAzumarill]

Actually scum would know which one is rolled right (cause they would be pirates)? So scum would just claim caribean?

[Radical Rat]

It's also possible for pirates to exist normally though. They could probably make a guess based on number though. And if they lied about it, it's a death sentence D4 after we all get the scurvy notification. Though I guess it's also THEORETICALLY possible for both to exist...

[MegAzumarill]

Let's move past mechanical for now.

[MegAzumarill]

Gamma's entrance feels really weird to me, especially bringing up massclaim just feels like an odd move.

I'm liking Radrat's tone at this point although it's mostly been mechspec so far.

I don't think furtive's claim is confirming, although it's probably true.

Not much to say about other people

[Radical Rat]

I'm pretty comfortable with you, furtive, and bianco all being Town for now.

No one's really done anything that stands out to me as scummy yet, Gamma asking about massclaim doesn't really bother me, though I do disagree with doing one now.

Mildly worried about Aeronaut not showing up yet though

[biancospino]

I'd rather not claim before an actual massclaim
I also think massclaim (or just claiming in general) rn isn't the best idea. if it were Grander or Grandest Idea furtive would be right but roles are pure rng

@Meg, idk, I don't really think Gamma here is being weird. Reading furtive in 17 as opening the door to a massclaim is fair, and responding to that is fair

VOTE: furtive
how about no? Last time I thought your opening was wack you were scum and I think your opening is wack again

@Gamma, what do you mean exactly by

wack

? I think the first post furtive made in Haunted was of significant different nature than the first post here

[MegAzumarill]

I'd rather not claim before an actual massclaim
I also think massclaim (or just claiming in general) rn isn't the best idea. if it were Grander or Grandest Idea furtive would be right but roles are pure rng

@Meg, idk, I don't really think Gamma here is being weird. Reading furtive in 17 as opening the door to a massclaim is fair, and responding to that is fair

VOTE: furtive
how about no? Last time I thought your opening was wack you were scum and I think your opening is wack again

@Gamma, what do you mean exactly by

wack

? I think the first post furtive made in Haunted was of significant different nature than the first post here

That's not really how I read it but I suppose that makes some sense. Your thoughts on other people?

[MegAzumarill]

It still feels off to me