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[Grib]

That's funny, because at first I was ready to lazy-slot them as early townreads.

The universe is so whimsical.

[Elements]

Above the Line
Firebringer
Frog
Grib
Bellaphant
The Line-------Eiralox, NM, Enchant, Firth, TSQ, BBT
HighPrincess
Aisa
Below the Line

[Elements]

VOTE: Aisa

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Firebringer]

Nice to have you Not_mafia join me in the rude faction against the tyranny that is cat scratch fever. She didn't put us on a team and that is unforgivable

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Aisa

ill hop on this
VOTE: aisa

[Not_Mafia]

Nice to have you Not_mafia join me in the rude faction against the tyranny that is cat scratch fever. She didn't put us on a team and that is unforgivable

I'm Blue Mafia are you Red Mafia?

[Firebringer]

Nice to have you Not_mafia join me in the rude faction against the tyranny that is cat scratch fever. She didn't put us on a team and that is unforgivable

I'm Blue Mafia are you Red Mafia?

sorry nm i can't claim scum this game. i promised.
i am town but i am willing to be an ally to the blue mafia for u buddy

[Not_Mafia]

I'm vengeful, I promise not to venge you if you vote me

[Firebringer]

i could never vote you buddy

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Aisa

[Frogsterking]

Okay, now you feel almost too scummy to be scum.

Will you tell me about your playstyle? How you tend to handle the early- mid-, and late-game? Why do people who don't know you typically scumread you, and if someone had experience with you, what would they think of your posts so far?

Sorry for the rapid-fire questions, but you intrigue me.

Aside from the questions these are all the usual beats of a townie trying really hard to sort my slot. I've been described as too-scummy-to-be-scum sounding a lot. Like, a lot.

For your questions, I have very good reads early and hit scum D1 a lot. I mostly ask questions, set up a PoE and analyze isos. So my early play is very competent. Actually, I think my early game is very good.

The problem is that other than that I tend to play pretty bad.

I'd describe my mid game (or even immediately after setting up a PoE) play as: I freak out and go on tilt and throw the game.

I think my endgame play is messy too because I can figure out who did it by then but my tilt/paranoia/tinfoil are bad for closing out games.

My adaptation recently has been to try and play to my strengths and call multiple scum D1 and push one of them through so I get killed N1 and aren't around to throw the game later.

As for why I think I'm constantly scum read by tone, I have a theory that people who are introverted (low happiness, low assertiveness), neurotic (in my case anxious, angry, vulnerable) and very disagreeable (competitive, suspicious of others) are likely to be scum read by tone when Town. I mostly believe this because I realized that other players who have a similar temperament are frequently getting pushed as scum by strangers in their games as well.

Now with that said, what about you, Grib? What is your playstyle like in the early, mid and late game, and do you often get scum read for your tone as Town?

[Frogsterking]

UNVOTE: Fire

[Frogsterking]

ii played a game with him, read another game with him. if i understood his mind i would share it better with you. If i gave you a generic profile i would say expect him to go back and forth very fast and be very invested into reads one moment and then move just as quickly to something else, and that his reasoning and logic are very hard to tract often.

I would say maybe best way to find him to be town because i haven't seen his scum game is probably his lack of care of how he is perceived and this early game interactions def gives me feeling he is caring how he looks. idk too early to tell. Early gut scum feels.

its weird i have early game scum reads on two players.
aisa and frog.
This is so unusual

I think this is probably Town with

low

certainty. There's a lack of contempt that I would expect to be here if this were intended as shade and I can see town!Fire thinking this is true. I can also see town!Fire viewing Aisa as scummy even though I think the opposite and am

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certain his read is wrong and Aisa is Town.

[Frogsterking]

@Aisa

I do want you to answe my question though about your reads.

[Frogsterking]

Damn I got excited because I thought Elements was scum for a second.

[Frogsterking]

Above the Line
Firebringer
Frog
Grib
Bellaphant
The Line-------Eiralox, NM, Enchant, Firth, TSQ, BBT
HighPrincess
Aisa
Below the Line

I was going to scum case Elements but I think they're reads are tracking. It's interesting that they chose to put Bella above null. I was feeling that earlier but I couldn't really rationalize it.

Town leans:
Fire
Grib
Aisa
Elements

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: highprincess

This is probably a scum flip

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certainty. I don't really see any other candidates in the active posters. I imagine the active posters are all Town and the other scum haven't posted anything AI yet.

Jeez, we're moving fast AND bringing along a foul mood or two.

IIoA

I changed my mind a bit. Frog is sus, but not quite scum yet.

Yikes.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Frogsterking

I feel like this is +town for Grib, this is like the quintessential townie reaction to playing with me for the first time.

Definitely feeling it cause like. It's just a smidge bit weird to this one to post a giant personality survey and probe people who don't answer it. Like yeah, if it works it works but like.

Man! Kinda quirked... Not the biggest fan

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Shade

[Firebringer]

I think this is probably Town with low certainty. There's a lack of contempt that I would expect to be here if this were intended as shade and I can see town!Fire thinking this is true. I can also see town!Fire viewing Aisa as scummy even though I think the opposite and am low certain his read is wrong and Aisa is Town.

i don't see how this tracts in ur mind with a low townread to move ur vote. am i supposed to have contempt for u as scum and then shade u or something?
why couldn't i have been shading u just then by saying ur all over the map.

also how do u get my scumread on aisa when i have yet to expand on it besides qualifing her posts as weird. What do u get and how do u get a different opinion.

And frankly u dodged my question on if you believed what u were posting or were just doing it too look townie or reaction test me. It seems the lack of answer and leaving it so fast indicates yes but i don't know with you so what is it.

[Frogsterking]

I don't think I can really do anything else. I thought about scum leaning Shea but I don't think I can rationalize that either.

All

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certainty, no order

Town lean:
Aisa
Grib
Fire
Elements

Scum lean:
Princess

Null:
Everybody else

[Frogsterking]

And frankly u dodged my question on if you believed what u were posting or were just doing it too look townie or reaction test me. It seems the lack of answer and leaving it so fast indicates yes but i don't know with you so what is it.

Calm down

[Firebringer]

why is aisa town

[Firebringer]

And frankly u dodged my question on if you believed what u were posting or were just doing it too look townie or reaction test me. It seems the lack of answer and leaving it so fast indicates yes but i don't know with you so what is it.

Calm down

not sure how u read that post as me not being calm but okay
can u answer my question

[Frogsterking]

there is a gut feeling i have that ur doing things right now to try to get townread that feels out of character frog.
are u really that interested in getting the game going or what

feels like ur doing and saying stuff to generate conversation rather than believing it in any of it

Yeah I feel like this is all accurate. I think you can probably read me pretty well.

[Frogsterking]

why is aisa town

Uhh I'll have to check