mini 2140: partition (this is over)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 3:13 am

In post 74, Raya36 wrote:I highly doubt scum placed all 3 members in group 1

That's exactly what they should do though.

Raya36 · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 3:13 am

In post 73, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum would just put all 3 in group 1 knowing that nobody will self-lynch, and then sweep the game from there.

This is the type of game where it could be beneficial to self-lynch so idk if that's fully true? I'd be more than happy to lynch my group if I think 2+ scum is in it.

Mohab500 · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 3:50 am

Yeah, voting yourself shouldn't really be much of a problem here, no?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:33 am

In post 51, dsjstr wrote:Group 1 has a majority of votes so they basically decide which group will get lynched

Everyone's votes are worth the same

In post 51, dsjstr wrote:They get a shot at winning even if there is no member in group 1, if they were hoping that we would lynch group 1 why would they hang one of their men?

If the scum chose 1/1/1 with the intent of lynching group 1 for the win today, I think putting one scum in group 1 to "sandbag" that group and make that group seem scummier would be the best way to do it.

Scumvibes from dsjstasefsfr's entrance, primarily from 49 though I'm having a hard time formulating it into words

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:37 am

In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?

What's wrong with that?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:44 am

VOTE: 3

Hoctac · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:50 am

> We shouldn't lynch group 1. Too risky.
> That's

exactly

why scum would just put all 3 in group 1; we should lynch it.
> What if they knew we would think that and we just lose by lynching it??
> It's fine. If there's 2 or 3 scum in there, it's a positive result.
> It's not even that good if there's 2 scum in here. We enter MyLo the next day.
> They're counting on our paranoi, see? We should definitely lynch it.
> What if it's a 1/1/1 split though? We insta-lose then!
> A 1/1/1 split makes no sense for EV purposes, it's either 0, 2, or 3 in group 1. Therefore, we lynch it.
> But the fact you think that is exactly why they do a 1/1/1 split and then we lose by lynching group 1.
> They anticipated you would be afraid and used the airpeed velocity of an unladen swallow...

(Continued Ad Infinitum)

enomis · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:50 am

In post 77, Mohab500 wrote:Yeah, voting yourself shouldn't really be much of a problem here, no?

Do you not want to play the game beyond day 1?

enomis · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:52 am

In post 79, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?
What's wrong with that?

I want to be here on day 2.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 5:53 am

Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2

Hoctac · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:01 am

Everyone in group 3 has been sus so far. It's pretty impressive.

dsjstr · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:01 am

In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?

I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh

Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.

Hoctac · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:04 am

I don't get it, Doro. If there's 1 member in group 2 and we lynch it, there'll be 2 alive tomorrow.

Hoctac · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:05 am

@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:08 am

I actually lean town on Mohab. What are you seeing there?

enomis · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:09 am

In post 84, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2

I have no other play. I can't lynch group 1. I don't want to lynch myself. So I can only find from group 2. Quite demotivated tbh. This isn't what i expected when i came into this game.

Hoctac · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:10 am

You absolutely can lynch group 1 if you find enough people from there acting scummy. Why are you ruling the play out completely?

enomis · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:10 am

In post 88, Hoctac wrote:@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.

This is addressed to me? How am I being lynchbait this game?

enomis · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:11 am

In post 91, Hoctac wrote:You absolutely can lynch group 1 if you find enough people from there acting scummy. Why are you ruling the play out completely?

based on what people have posted.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:13 am

In post 90, enomis wrote:
In post 84, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2
I have no other play. I can't lynch group 1. I don't want to lynch myself. So I can only find from group 2. Quite demotivated tbh. This isn't what i expected when i came into this game.

If you thought Mohab or dsjstr were scummy, would you want to lynch your group then? I don't get your insistence on not wanting to lynch yourself.

Hoctac · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:14 am

Mohab entered saying we shouldn't talk about partitions because what's the point, but then discusses them anyway and emphasises how there can definitely be 3 scum in group 1.

He says it's too "risky" to lynch in group 1 and talks about how we shouldn't do it just because, unless we find "at least 1 scum in there worth lynching" - which is a very easy thing to do in 8 players. He's setting himself up later to vote group 1 while being reasonable and fair about it early.

Also, the self-vote is weird.

Hoctac · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:16 am

In post 92, enomis wrote:
In post 88, Hoctac wrote:@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.
This is addressed to me? How am I being lynchbait this game?

I'm not saying you are. I'm just wondering if you are in other games. There's incentive for scum to dump 3 lynchbaits into the same group.

dsjstr · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:16 am

In post 87, Hoctac wrote:I don't get it, Doro. If there's 1 member in group 2 and we lynch it, there'll be 2 alive tomorrow.

If they went 1-1-1 which would just be a mistake for the mafia then there would be 2 members alive D2 no matter which group we choose. Since there are only two members in group 2 that leaves two suspects to choose from. The fact that no one else

sees going 1-1-1 as a bad move makes me think the mafia would have gone for it.

Hoctac · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:18 am

Fair point, but see 81, Doro.

You find anyone scummy so far? I'm pretty sure clidd and Ame are conspiring in the other corner.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:20 am

In post 95, Hoctac wrote:Mohab entered saying we shouldn't talk about partitions because what's the point, but then discusses them anyway and emphasises how there can definitely be 3 scum in group 1.

True but there wasn't a whole lot else going on in thread tbf

He says it's too "risky" to lynch in group 1 and talks about how we shouldn't do it just because, unless we find "at least 1 scum in there worth lynching" - which is a very easy thing to do in 8 players. He's setting himself up later to vote group 1 while being reasonable and fair about it early.

Also, the self-vote is weird.

I see. I liked how he was thinking about how to play the setup, which seemed natural. and he did end up saying to not lynch group 1 today