Why does town do so badly with the White Flag mechanic?

[chennisden]

I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls no plurality lynch

[Creature]

Need to play with the right lists

Putting the "legendary" players to all play together tend to be scumsided though. Probably needs a mix of them and more casual players.

[chennisden]

Kaivernan has a "majority to end day early, 1/4 plurality to lynch at deadline rule" that I think is very good.

But it also allows people to no effort

[chennisden]

If good lists are scumsided it is what it is

[chennisden]

I'd rather have everyone try and it be scumsided than get a free win because scum/town weren't trying

[chennisden]

The reason town does so bad in white flag btw is because you need a D1 solve and for most players that's really really situational

[Oversoul]

I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.

To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players

[RadiantCowbells]

Need to play with the right lists

Putting the "legendary" players to all play together tend to be scumsided though. Probably needs a mix of them and more casual players.

Would say the exact opposite.
Most legendary players are notorious for town not scum.

There's insanely few players who are really good at both alignments.

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.

To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players

Not necessarily hardcore vs casual

You need townies who aren't going to individually try to carry the game.

[Creature]

The reason town does so bad in white flag btw is because you need a D1 solve and for most players that's really really situational

Yeh, high heels could be a factor too

[Ramcius]

Why can't we make blitz games more popular?

Let's stop that geriatric I-can-only-play-once-every-14-days bullshit.

I think the problem is that we need plurality lynch.

We need more day vigs in setups

[chennisden]

I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.

To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players

I'm not talking about every slot tryharding and making wallposts on every other player.

I'm just talking about not lurking out the game while TECHNICALLY fulfilling activity requirements up to the point that you literally don't defend yourself at all during LyLo.

[Creature]

Why can't we make blitz games more popular?

Let's stop that geriatric I-can-only-play-once-every-14-days bullshit.

I think the problem is that we need plurality lynch.

We need more day vigs in setups

Add ITAs for them

[chennisden]

No.

We just need certain players to stop no efforting

[Creature]

What about instead of one content post every two days or prod we make it atleast X content posts per day phase or force replace?

[Creature]

If someone's garbage to like post enough only to avoid getting three prods, then they don't deserve to play.

I'd make it 20 content posts per day phase or force-replace (decreasing it as days go on though).

[chennisden]

Exactly

The "no asking for someone else to replace out/be replaced out" rule is stupid because it doesn't make exceptions like these.

I don't get why people sign up to play games and DON'T PLAY THEM and DON'T REPLACE OUT

[chennisden]

I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.

Except for newbie games. That's part of why I still sign up for them

[Creature]

One ruleset change I'm implementing on my future games is that, instead of prods, it will be like this:

The dayphase will be split into two. In Y days you need to hit a X minimum content posts requirement or I'll start searching for your replacement until you fit that criteria. In like 2Y days (usually day end) you need to hit a 2X minimum content posts or I'll force replace you no exceptions.

V/LAs won't affect this at all.

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually I swear at some point they made an exception for activity

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe I was wrong.

[chennisden]

There isn't
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[RadiantCowbells]

it is detrimental to the game's atmosphere to demand others replace out, particularly if it's not on the basis of activity but rather player expectations of how a player should play the game

It does leave some leeway around for inactivity though

[chennisden]

I think it's easy to tell who exactly is lurking the hell out of the game.

So I'll just add an addendum to my rules: "If I feel that you have made minimal meaningful contributions to the game and/or are only passing the activity requirements by technicality rather than in spirit, I may force replace you at my discretion without warning."