Mini 574: Portal Mafia: HUGE SUCCESS

[Gorrad]

I don't think L-3 is a big deal at all. Heck, knowing Flameaxe, I'd EXPECT it. That guy revels in latter-half votes.

Exactly. I don't know Flameaxe. I don't know

any

of you. I am totally and completely un-biased. Hence, theoretically a better player.

Also, joined in 2006 and 7 game posts? I'm calling alt here.

Well, you found me. Congratulations. Was it worth it? Because despite your violent behavior, the only thing you've managed to break so far is my heart. Maybe you could settle for that, and we'll just call it a day.

We do what we must because we can.

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote

also.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

But both posts had the same purpose. Time of posting has nothing to do with this.

[scotmany12]

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

I think you are really pushing this fourth vote thing way to far. I didn't view it scummy at all; it was a random vote on a random wagon.

[Glork]

Vote Count:

Flameaxe 2 (Akonas, Machiavellian-Mafia)
Incognito 2 (populartajo, Your Worst Nightmare)
Your Worst Nightmare 2 (Gorrad, Miztef)
Sir Tornado 1 (Patrick)
scotmany12 1 (jack_dillon
populartajo 1 (Incognito)
Machiavellian-Mafia 1 (scotmany12)

Not Voting: Sir Tornado, Flameaxe

12 alive, 7 to lynch.

[populartajo]

I appreciate this but how do you already know that your random powers are wrong?

I think they are wrong, arent they?

It's true. He hates me.

Lies

You certainly have that affect on people.

I knew I wasnt alone.

unvote

I like your contributions so far.

Arrow Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

What? Were we joking?

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

I agree, but its a 4th vote. Its pretty muck like L-2 someone at the newbie leagues.
Im expecting the VC to vote. Yep, geting paranoid about doing stupid things and too lazy to count the votes.

[populartajo]

Bleh, VCs dont vote.

[Flameaxe]

Tajo, did you really think you were alone?

[Sir Tornado]

I like your contributions so far.

Glad you do.

[Akonas]

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

. I can only hope this is the fourth vote on you.

[Your Worst Nightmare]

Un-official Vote Count:

Your Worst Nightmare - 3

(Gorrad, Incognito, Miztef)

Machiavellian-Mafia - 2

(scotmany12, Akonas)

scotmany12 - 1

(jack_dillon)

Flameaxe - 1

(Machiavellian-Mafia)

Incognito - 1

(Your Worst Nightmare)

Sir Tornado - 1

(Patrick)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends Monday, March 17, if a majority is not reached before then.

Unvote; Vote: Your Worst Nightmare

Not paying attention to that level of detail trumps not considering L-3 votes to be scummy in my book.

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia. I can only hope this is the fourth vote on you.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these posts do mean Akonas looks just as suspicious to you as I am, right? I mean, he's doing the exact same thing you're using as argument to vote for me...

[Gorrad]

And you ignore post 75. Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a core point making a post on you?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

But both posts had the same purpose. Time of posting has nothing to do with this.

The timing is the main reason that I found your "same purpose" joke post scummy.

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

I think you are really pushing this fourth vote thing way to far. I didn't view it scummy at all; it was a random vote on a random wagon.

Once this game is over, you will be amazed at how so many supposedly "random" votes are not "random" at all.

[Incognito]

I appreciate this but how do you already know that your random powers are wrong?

I think they are wrong, arent they?

In this case, they were wrong, yes. My point for asking though was how were you already able to

determine

that they were wrong? Did I do something in the thread

already

to prove this to you?

It's true. He hates me.

Lies

You certainly have that affect on people.

I knew I wasnt alone.

Heh. I don't hate the guy but in Open 58 we sure got into some heated arguments.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these posts do mean Akonas looks just as suspicious to you as I am, right? I mean, he's doing the exact same thing you're using as argument to vote for me...

This could be correct. But the way you've asked about this is interesting. I would expect you to ask me something like this if I posted somewhere in between Akonas's vote in Post 86 and your post in Post 87 as if you were asking me to clarify some sort of inconsistency in my play (why didn't I question Akonas about his Post 86 if I called you out about something similar?). But since you beat me to it, why are you asking me about it? Are you trying to divert attention away from yourself?

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

But both posts had the same purpose. Time of posting has nothing to do with this.

The timing is the main reason that I found your "same purpose" joke post scummy.

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

I think you are really pushing this fourth vote thing way to far. I didn't view it scummy at all; it was a random vote on a random wagon.

Once this game is over, you will be amazed at how so many supposedly "random" votes are not "random" at all.

Ok. You were the first to vote Sir Tornado in the first post of the game. You are obviously trying to push a quicklynch.

[scotmany12]

Oh, you're right MM. It was a joke vote. Flame calls me a homo all the time. It was not scummy at all. I was in no danger of being lynched, at all.

[populartajo]

In this case, they were wrong, yes. My point for asking though was how were you already able to determine that they were wrong? Did I do something in the thread already to prove this to you?

Yep, read your posts. How do we call this feeling? Mmm, townie?

Tajo, did you really think you were alone?

Of course not, but I never knew I wasnt

that

alone.

[Your Worst Nightmare]

And you ignore post 75. Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a core point making a post on you?

As part of a required test protocol, our previous statement suggesting that we were an alternate account was an outright fabrication. Good job. As part of a required test protocol, we will stop enhancing the truth in three, two, o--

Take that as you will.

This could be correct. But the way you've asked about this is interesting. I would expect you to ask me something like this if I posted somewhere in between Akonas's vote in Post 86 and your post in Post 87 as if you were asking me to clarify some sort of inconsistency in my play (why didn't I question Akonas about his Post 86 if I called you out about something similar?). But since you beat me to it, why are you asking me about it? Are you trying to divert attention away from yourself?

By posting what I did when I did helps making sure you don't miss Akonas' post by whatever reason, willingly or not (it happens, we're all, unfortunately, humans); helps me understand what you believe to be scummy and not so I can judge you better in the immediate future; and it grants me those answers faster than it would have took if I waited for your post. Firstly, because I had a chance to post at the time and opted to take it. (Since due to real life issues, I never know when I may be gone for a considerable amount of time, and I'd hate to be considered a lurker.) Secondly, because your possible reactions to me waiting for you posting are more predictable than me not waiting for you posting. (Either you'd acknowledge Akonas' vote and be suspicious of him, or you wouldn't acknowledge it and keep voting on me. Frankly, it weilds much more interesting results this way. This is still a

game

, right?) And thirdly, because we do have a two-week deadline for day 1.

I don't deny that diverting attention away from me isn't a good bonus as well. We should be lynching mafias, after all. It isn't, however, a reason for my actions. I would be putting more effort into it if it were.

How do we call this feeling? Mmm, townie?

Nausea.

[Gorrad]

And you ignore post 75. Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a core point making a post on you?

As part of a required test protocol, our previous statement suggesting that we were an alternate account was an outright fabrication. Good job. As part of a required test protocol, we will stop enhancing the truth in three, two, o--

Take that as you will.

Take a point called 'z' in a complex argument, and if z1!=z^2+c...well, the point is that you lied pretty big time. LAL.

[Miztef]

o-m-g, con-fu-sion.

ok... so...

@Your Worst Nightmare: I am so very confused, did you or did you not have a second account? Is this account an alt? On another note, do you find incognito suspicious? how about gorrad? You seem to think their arguments are flawed at least.

@Gorrad: Are you saying you are willing to lynch Nightmare if he

does not

have an alt account? Or if he does? Or something else entirely?

Scotmany, to me, is pinging my scumdar. He states "It was not scummy at all. I was in no danger of being lynched, at all." which makes sense, but in my opinion, seems a bit too comfortable, as if a scumbuddy voted him and he knew he was fine. his posts thus far have been short and sweet, for the most part just passable as content, I don't like it.

there is a small exchange between tajo and sir tornado:

unvote

I like your contributions so far.

Glad you do.

although very petty, I felt no need to mention any of tornado's content thus far, and for someone to do so makes me believe there is a connection between the 2.

Explain?

Because placing a forth vote on someone (and keeping it) after

10

posts of actual game is already scummy in of itself (considering that 7 votes ends the day).

Not

finding that somewhat suspicious is scummier still.

I'm confused by what you're trying to say here as well. You entered the game, noticed that Flameaxe placed a fourth vote on scotmany12 (which is something that you have now adamantly declared as scummy), and instead of placing a vote on Flameaxe (your so-called scummy-acting player) you placed a random vote on Patrick. And then when I question Mach-Mafia about his comment and subsequent vote on Flameaxe, you place a vote on me for the reasons you've now provided?

Something about this chain of events doesn't jibe well.

I like this little comment, I agree entirely with incognito's post here. this just doesn't sit well me with. Almost nothing Nightmare has done seems helpful in any sense. His language is sarcastic, maybe even cryptic, and overall slightly condescending. His actions don't make logical sense, and he defends himself in a hard to understand manner (see post 94), for the record, I understood, maybe, 10% of that post.

[Patrick]

Hey guys, I'm here and will catch up with what's going on tomorrow after some sleep, as it's 4 am now. On skimming the last post though, one thing I'm puzzled about is why Miztef sees a connection between Tornado and populartajo.

although very petty, I felt no need to mention any of tornado's content thus far, and for someone to do so makes me believe there is a connection between the 2.

Why? Tornado hasn't posted any content so far, so it seems normal to poke him, since we're on a tight schedule.

[Miztef]

I tried to say that it was a very minor connection, but even so, I thought it worth mentioning.

Sir Tornado, from my knowledge of him, never really posts much... ever. maybe that bias provoked my attention?

but, I agree, maybe I was just grasping at nothing there. Just thought it was worth a tiny mention.

[Gorrad]

@Gorrad: Are you saying you are willing to lynch Nightmare if he

does not

have an alt account? Or if he does? Or something else entirely?

YWN made two statements that were both centers of arguments (First pro-him, second anti-me) and contradictory. He then admits to falsehood. Given their contexts, I don't think either were jokes, but, as he stated, found out lies. Who lies? Scum lie. I can feel the lynch unfold in front of me.