Mini 510 - a minimal game of mafia - Game Over

[CoolBot]

No lynch and self-votes are just mistakes newbie scum make. Don't take it so personally. When a bandwagon is on you, the best way to defend yourself is to make an

unambiguous

claim. The reason this is a good idea is that it's hard for scum to make a convincing one, especially early when they don't know the specific details of the game.

And since this was your first game, you might want to try the Newbie games before you try another one. Those games are designed to give new players a feel for what successful play.

I need Doc protect.

Don't direct the doc.

[Adel]

votecount as of post 106

with 12 alive, 7 will lynch before deadline

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DGMavn

: 1: spurgistan

¬Jopoho

: 4: SirWario, CoolBot, Jopho, Khelvaster

Khelvaster

: 2: jmar, Numenorean7

Sir Tornado

: 2: Doraemoncool, izak013

not voting

: Sir Tornado, DGMavn, death_omen
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deadline is November 06 at 0100 GMT

my record of your votes is available by clicking

here

-it will update automatically as I make changes.

[SirWario]

Fine, i'll suggest my role with ambigous, annoying, and all around inconvient clues.
1. I know three other roles at least that exist, but not who occupies them.
2. Death to one helps me, death to many hurts me.
3. In death I reveal intel, and bury some with me.

This ambiguous only makes you look worse to me. I think you're hinting at a powerole only to prevent your impending lynch. However, you're a newbie scum, so you don't want to take a gambit with an actual roleclaim due to the risk of a counterclaim. Or you're simply not creative enough to think up a role.

[Sir Tornado]

o wait, i only have 6 votes....HAHAHA thats awesome! I totally thought i had already died. Hmmmmm now about revealing that role. Well i can't all of the sudden be a nice townie because its probably " a strange and suspicious scum pattern blah blah blah." what to do...what to do...

Fine, i'll suggest my role with ambigous, annoying, and all around inconvient clues.
1. I know three other roles at least that exist, but not who occupies them.
2. Death to one helps me, death to many hurts me.
3. In death I reveal intel, and bury some with me.

Wow, have fun with that, sorry i have to, but i can't follow the "newbie scum patterns of death that clearly show I am against you. " However, i solemnly swear the above clues are in fact true.

I believe this. I can perfectly see Adel putting in roles like this.

[Sir Tornado]

I'm probably going to make my final decision on Jopoho based on his next post.

You say that and still vote in the same post? Why?

[Sir Tornado]

Um... Why is everyone so sure Jopoho is not newbie town? I'm just not seeing it. He suggested a no-lynch (which usually gets an over-reaction), and was attacked for it. He became defensive. He then became frustrated and self-voted. Yes, these are classic scumtells, but these are also classic newb-tells. Can someone tell me why 5 people apparently feel very confident that he's scum?

The tone in Numenorean's post makes me think about his play leading to innocent inept newbies lynches in Mini 466, where both of us were scum.

[Sir Tornado]

Jopoho, what you did is unforgivable. Being a newb is fine. Self-voting and

daring

people to lynch you is not. I can refer you to the longest day 1 ever, mafia 68 (Ork mafia), which just ended d1 because someone voted himself and dared everyone to lynch him.

Vote: Jop

And the self voter turned out to be what?

[DGMavn]

I'm probably going to make my final decision on Jopoho based on his next post.

You say that and still vote in the same post? Why?

Because the more I wrote, the more trouble I had justifying keeping him alive.

I'm gonna put him outside hammer range though until he tells us his rolename.

Unvote: Jopoho
Major FoS: Jopoho

[DGMavn]

Dumbasses

Whoa. Tone it down some - I don't know who that's directed toward but it's entirely uncalled for.

[jmar]

I don't know, the whole "I bury some info with me" claim seems like he's scum to me, looking for a way to escape the noose. If he doesn't give us a name soon, I'm lynching him out of sheer principle because he's acting like an idiot.

[jmar]

Also, did anybody notice Khelvaster's name came up twice in the vote count? Who are we missing in the vote count?

[Sir Tornado]

Dumbasses

Whoa. Tone it down some - I don't know who that's directed toward but it's entirely uncalled for.

That was directed at the town in general because I thought we'd lynched Jopoho already. It is so freaking obvious that he is not scum.

[DGMavn]

Dumbasses

Whoa. Tone it down some - I don't know who that's directed toward but it's entirely uncalled for.

That was directed at the town in general because I thought we'd lynched Jopoho already. It is so freaking obvious that he is not scum.

I don't care if we lynch the unnightkillable cop - I'd rather not have that language pointed in my direction. Thanks.

[jmar]

SirTornado, you seem very sure Jopoho is town. Care to explain your reasoning?

[Sir Tornado]

I don't care if we lynch the unnightkillable cop - I'd rather not have that language pointed in my direction. Thanks.

You don't care if we lynch the unnightkillable cop?!

[Sir Tornado]

SirTornado, you seem very sure Jopoho is town. Care to explain your reasoning?

His overall play, the tone of his posts, his conviction in what he is doing is right inspite of having the entire town against him.

[DGMavn]

I don't care if we lynch the unnightkillable cop - I'd rather not have that language pointed in my direction. Thanks.

You don't care if we lynch the unnightkillable cop?!

<joke>Nope. 'cause I'm the jester! Wee! </joke>

Waitaminnit...

2. Death to one helps me, death to many hurts me.

I think we seriously need to step back and consider what conventional roles he might have. Because I'm not losing this game to lynching a histrionic newbie jester.

[Sir Tornado]

Adel will not put a jester in a mini.

[Adel]

Also, did anybody notice Khelvaster's name came up twice in the vote count? Who are we missing in the vote count?

Khelvaster's vote is on Jopho, not izak013, and not on both. Thanks for catching my mistake.

[DGMavn]

Well, Jopoho's pseudoroleclaim doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard of. Also, STdo you know this for a fact or are you simply basing it on what you think you know about Adel?

Jopoho, we need the NAME of your role or you're getting my vote back.

[Sir Tornado]

Well, Jopoho's pseudoroleclaim doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard of. Also, STdo you know this for a fact or are you simply basing it on what you think you know about Adel?

Jopoho, we need the NAME of your role or you're getting my vote back.

I am basing this on the type of setups she tried to get nominated for the Open Game setup nomination lists as well as the setups she mentioned elsewhere on site (including the theme test market)

[jmar]

Also, did anybody notice Khelvaster's name came up twice in the vote count? Who are we missing in the vote count?

Khelvaster's vote is on Jopho, not izak013, and not on both. Thanks for catching my mistake.

No problem, but doesn't that mean you've only counted 11 people? Who are you missing?

[Adel]

jmar: thanks again. Numenorean7's vote on SirWario was missing from the last vote count.

votecount as of post 96

with 12 alive, 7 will lynch before deadline
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DGMavn: 1: spurgistan
¬Jopoho: 5: SirWario, death_omen, CoolBot, Jopho, Khelvaster
Khelvaster: 1: jmar
Sir Tornado: 2: Doraemoncool, izak013
SirWario: 1: Numenorean7

not voting: Sir Tornado
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deadline is November 06 at 0100 GMT

[DGMavn]

My no-vote is also missing from that count.

[SirWario]

SirTornado, you seem very sure Jopoho is town. Care to explain your reasoning?

His overall play, the tone of his posts, his conviction in what he is doing is right inspite of having the entire town against him.

If he's town, then his play is very annoying. He's centered the game completely on himself, giving up in the process. He's made no effort to catch scum. His indifferent attitude makes me believe that he is just waiting for suspicion to veer elsewhere.