Post came off as unnecessarily antagonistic from Titus.In post 71, CherryDrPepper wrote: I like oriole, but Im having trouble seeing whats wrong with that Titus post.
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I meant that his posts have so far not been productive for the town, not that he is town and making bad posts.In post 69, CherryDrPepper wrote:Link did not post properly
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4976509
Flech's "worst town posts so far" when describing Saki bothers me. You think he's town, thn you vote?
Glass has voted twice for people recently voted on, bandwagon style.
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This post seems to me like an attempt to get suspicion on an easy mislynch target VOTE: CherryIn post 33, CherryDrPepper wrote:Wait... how didn't i notice this earlier
Why would you have yourself as your top scum-pick? i'd understand you having yourself as your only town read (lol at reading yourself) but why are you calling yourself scum?In post 28, Varsoon wrote:@Flench: Get an avatar. Also, it's still pretty RVS, somy top scum-pick would only be myself? I don't know, man.
Also if you could sign your posts, that would be great.
Town Varsoon is town.
Could you explain?In post 62, oriole wrote:
Do you think policy lynches are scummy, then?In post 58, Titus wrote:He's thinking, oh crap, I'm caught, better unvote. Pushing for a policy lynch this early would be problematic if confirmed town caught him. Of course, I am speculating here.
Yah thisIn post 71, CherryDrPepper wrote: I like oriole, but Im having trouble seeing whats wrong with that Titus post.i dare you
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Am I explaining the question I asked Titus or why I voted him?In post 77, Vote Me wrote:
Could you explain?In post 62, oriole wrote:
Do you think policy lynches are scummy, then?In post 58, Titus wrote:He's thinking, oh crap, I'm caught, better unvote. Pushing for a policy lynch this early would be problematic if confirmed town caught him. Of course, I am speculating here.Oriole and Oreo, they look similar. I'll probably respond to both.-
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I'm asking about the question, because policy lynches are inherently scummy, aren't they? Especially this early?
If this is the post in question, how is it antagonistic?In post 58, Titus wrote:He's thinking, oh crap, I'm caught, better unvote. Pushing for a policy lynch this early would be problematic if confirmed town caught him. Of course, I am speculating here.
Are you voting because of the response to 59?
To me, this post clashes with 59In post 55, Glass wrote:Titus and Pasch:
Do you think that Saki was being serious when he was pushing for a policy lynch?i dare you
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@Titus: I had a game with Pasche where he played very pro-town, but I was paranoid that he was rolling a really convincing ruse. I replaced out of that game, though, so I didn't get to see what his alignment is. In this game, I feel I can fully trust his judgments without worrying--something that is good, given how well Pasche plays town.
Anyway, as far as the current game-state goes, it feels like the tension between Saki, Titus, and Cherry is scum-involved. I'm not used to seeing town vs town crossvote so early, so I'm pretty convinced there's a bad apple there. The only problem is that I can't deduce much with the info given. I'm willing to say that Titus is the scum, though. He's been making really careful plays and working hard to look town, but it feels a bit artificial--like he's trying to earn towncred way too early with the questions posed so far. /shrug. Glass is soundly town so far and Cherry is iffy for me. Was reading the slot as town but seems scummier as of recent.-
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It'd be nice if you could explain your vote rather than hoping on a wagon with a naked vote.
VOTE: Jmo16mla
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Votecount 1.2
[L-4] Saki - Flench, Paschendale, CherryDrPepper
[L-5] Titus - oriole, Glass
[L-5] Glass - Titus, jmo16mla
[L-6] Flench - StubbsKVM
[L-6] CherryDrPepper - Vote Me
[L-6] jmo16mla - Varsoon
Not Voting: TunnelVision, Dyslexicon, Saki
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 PM CST ((expired on 2013-08-02 19:30:00)).
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Everyone has confirmed!Last edited by Does Bo Know on Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.Town: 11-12; Scum: 10-4; Third-party 1-0-
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Wagon? He/she had one vote.In post 82, Varsoon wrote:
It'd be nice if you could explain your vote rather than hoping on a wagon with a naked vote.
VOTE: Jmo16mla
Explain your vote.town: 15:13 Scum 4:4-
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Aw, I'm too late to OMGUS this =/
Ironically I think Saki's chaotic style is creating discussion and this generally serves town.In post 39, Flench wrote:Leaving my vote with Saki because worst town posts so far.
Explanation for this?In post 48, Paschendale wrote:I like Flench for town.
Saki, has some rather chaotic/trolling posts, and gathered some votes for this. Somehow I don't think scum would be this out there from the start, but other than this I don't find it easy to read alignment in his posts.
Titus, seems overly cautious. I don't like that he forwards Saki being scummy, but also seems afraid that people will be convinced and the wagon growing. Also, I don't get how one can take the push for lynching all hydras seriously, I highly doubt it's going to be a popular idea any time soon.
Would you say you are a conservative voter?
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A small wagon's still a wagon. Explain your vote.
@Flench: The reasoning behind his votes and how cynical his voting methods are (based on his own logic rather than other's//doesn't vote opportunistically) come off as town. Clearly, this doesn't make the slot absolutely town, but it's a nod in that direction.
@Dyslexicon: Your points are the reason why I should probably have my vote on Titus. Still, I'd much rather pressure out JMO for this shit. I don't see why no one else thinks it's important. Dude just left a vote and it would've coasted easily.-
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I think this is up for debate, really.In post 79, Vote Me wrote:I'm asking about the question, because policy lynches are inherently scummy, aren't they? Especially this early?
It wasn't that post, it was this oneIn post 79, Vote Me wrote:
If this is the post in question, how is it antagonistic?In post 58, Titus wrote:He's thinking, oh crap, I'm caught, better unvote. Pushing for a policy lynch this early would be problematic if confirmed town caught him. Of course, I am speculating here.In post 61, Titus wrote:
I am not certain if he's scum. I am concerned if I jump on, more people might and the bandwagon might reach the point of no return. There are already a few people voting Saki. If I was certain Saki was scum, I'd vote him without caring if he might eventually wind up lynched. However, I'm not. If there wasn't already a train on Saki, I'd vote him to see what happened.In post 59, Glass wrote:So why aren't you voting Saki?
So, do you care to share this history with the rest of the class Varsoon?Oriole and Oreo, they look similar. I'll probably respond to both.-
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I am a conservative voter, but an aggressive pressurer and questioner. I wasn't pushing for a hydra lynch, as you properly saw. I just said I have no idea how to read hydras so they'll get extra attention from me. When I do vote someone, I want it to be clear why I'm voting that particular person with a logic that is clearly understood. I do agree with you that JMO needs to be pressured. I hate naked voting as it leaves little to analyze.In post 86, Dyslexicon wrote:Aw, I'm too late to OMGUS this =/
Ironically I think Saki's chaotic style is creating discussion and this generally serves town.In post 39, Flench wrote:Leaving my vote with Saki because worst town posts so far.
Explanation for this?In post 48, Paschendale wrote:I like Flench for town.
Saki, has some rather chaotic/trolling posts, and gathered some votes for this. Somehow I don't think scum would be this out there from the start, but other than this I don't find it easy to read alignment in his posts.
Titus, seems overly cautious. I don't like that he forwards Saki being scummy, but also seems afraid that people will be convinced and the wagon growing. Also, I don't get how one can take the push for lynching all hydras seriously, I highly doubt it's going to be a popular idea any time soon.
Would you say you are a conservative voter?
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I've played with Titus before and his style is a little weird. He seems more town this time. He tends to overthink and post those overthoughts and they don't always make much sense. Last time he was more antagonistic.
Oriole has me on the fence right now. His posts don't really seem to advance the discussion very much. He votes and has a few questions, but he's not reaching any conclusions. It's too early to justify a vote, but it does warrant some suspicion.
I don't really like Dyslex jumping on Titus, either. Really, I don't like any of the votes on Titus.
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For me some of the earlier stuff was what stood out the most. Why do you say no one else think it's important though?In post 87, Varsoon wrote:@Dyslexicon: Your points are the reason why I should probably have my vote on Titus. Still, I'd much rather pressure out JMO for this shit. I don't see why no one else thinks it's important. Dude just left a vote and it would've coasted easily.
What I meant was that I don't see how Saki's push for lynching hydras would be taken seriously as it hardly would get any support. Seemed like trolling to me at least. Also, I was not the one to put forward JMO's vote, that was Varsoon.In post 89, Titus wrote:I am a conservative voter, but an aggressive pressurer and questioner. I wasn't pushing for a hydra lynch, as you properly saw. I just said I have no idea how to read hydras so they'll get extra attention from me. When I do vote someone, I want it to be clear why I'm voting that particular person with a logic that is clearly understood. I do agree with you that JMO needs to be pressured. I hate naked voting as it leaves little to analyze.
The overthoughts bothers me, but it's good to know if it's part of his regular way of posting. Have you played with him as both scum and town?In post 90, Paschendale wrote:I've played with Titus before and his style is a little weird. He seems more town this time. He tends to overthink and post those overthoughts and they don't always make much sense. Last time he was more antagonistic.-
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I do not believe in overthought/overanalysis, only good or bad analysis.
As for my meta look at newbie 1372 (town) and 1380 (ongoing but it's the only game where I've flipped scum on this site; i subbed in towatds the end of day 1). The bulk of my meta is at sc2mafia.com. The setup there is a bit different (24 hour days, more PRs), but that is where I have played the most.-
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How is Glass not voting opportunistically when both of his votes were onto a person already under suspicion and voted upon? Varsoon seems to be giving a bit too much credit to Glass for some reason. I see Glass and Varsoon aligned at this point.In post 87, Varsoon wrote:A small wagon's still a wagon. Explain your vote.
@Flench: The reasoning behind his votes and how cynical his voting methods are (based on his own logic rather than other's//doesn't vote opportunistically) come off as town. Clearly, this doesn't make the slot absolutely town, but it's a nod in that direction.
@Dyslexicon: Your points are the reason why I should probably have my vote on Titus. Still, I'd much rather pressure out JMO for this shit. I don't see why no one else thinks it's important. Dude just left a vote and it would've coasted easily.
I would like to hear Glass's reaction to this.
Varsoon is also quite aggressive to JMO, I disagree with the accusation of bandwagon on that count.
Varsoon still not having cast a vote is the last item of suspicion.
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YOU DON'T MENTION ONGOING GAMES. GOD DAMN.In post 92, Titus wrote:I do not believe in overthought/overanalysis, only good or bad analysis.
As for my meta look at newbie 1372 (town) and 1380 (ongoing but it's the only game where I've flipped scum on this site; i subbed in towatds the end of day 1). The bulk of my meta is at sc2mafia.com. The setup there is a bit different (24 hour days, more PRs), but that is where I have played the most.town: 15:13 Scum 4:4-
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In post 61, Titus wrote:
I am not certain if he's scum. I am concerned if I jump on, more people might and the bandwagon might reach the point of no return. There are already a few people voting Saki. If I was certain Saki was scum, I'd vote him without caring if he might eventually wind up lynched. However, I'm not. If there wasn't already a train on Saki, I'd vote him to see what happened.In post 59, Glass wrote:So why aren't you voting Saki?
So, do you care to share this history with the rest of the class Varsoon?
@glassIn post 63, Titus wrote:L-3 isn't the point of no return. However, if more players jump onto the Saki bandwagon and become convinced, it would reach the point of no return. It's early in the day, let's keep our options open until we are certain someone is scum.
Yeah, I do think policy lynches are scummy. We should lynch who we believe to be scummy, not based on policy.
what in these post made you want to vote titus?town: 15:13 Scum 4:4-
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Voted upon? Titus only had 1 vote when I voted for him.Flench wrote: How is Glass not voting opportunistically when both of his votes were onto a person already under suspicion and voted upon? Varsoon seems to be giving a bit too much credit to Glass for some reason. I see Glass and Varsoon aligned at this point.
I would like to hear Glass's reaction to this.
Already under suspicion? How many people displayed suspicion of Titus before I voted him? I can only see ori.
Already answered this:jmo wrote: @glass
what in these post made you want to vote titus?
So, why are you voting me?Glass wrote:It is very similar to the reason why I was voting Cherry, in that Titus has a suspect in mind but keeping his vote RVS because he is scared that a wagon will form on his suspect... Doesn't really make sense to me.-
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