NY 163: Void Mountain of the Nightless Temple (Game Over)

[Human Destroyer]

UNVOTE: arcangel9
VOTE: Bulbazak

Self-voting on page 1 makes the game about your ego rather than scumhunting. It's the most valuable page of the game and you turn it into a giant WIFOM contest; benefits only scum. This should be a policy lynch.

ChannelDelibird, ChannelDelibird, it rhymes with FlannelDelibird.

CDB, have you done this before as town and/or scum?

If so, link?

[Human Destroyer]

I propose an all hydra town block.

I'm not sure what to make of this. Some clarification would be nice.

A hydra is a slot made up of more than one player. A town block is when a group of townies vote together.

Hydras are always town. It is known. Ergo it makes sense that we should band together.

I'm really not sure what to make of your needing clarification for what is obviously and could only be a joke. But couple that with your earlier posts and I'll have to agree with my other head that you should go ahead and claim your partners. And I don't agree with reek reek rhymes with meek that you should be policy lynched for voting yourself. People do it, and it's really nothing remarkable, but I don't like that it wasn't the first thing you did. Your first post was meh in that it tried to make a joke and comment about me being a Waller. It wasn't until your next post that you voted for yourself, which makes your self vote look like a self conscious attempt to not vote someone else. Couple that with the gratuitous "discuss" and it falls flat. Seriously, doing something to get reactions and then asking for reactions is just as bad as voting for someone and in the same post admitting its just for pressure. And here I am reacting to it, so I'm probably just as lame. But then I look at your start date, and unless you're an alt, maybe all of this is a product of inexperience.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rachmarie

Because big wall posts about Bulbazak can only naturally lead to a RachMarie vote.

Explain?

[Klick]

Still no time, but basically:

VOTE: Vote: Human Destroyer

A very interesting Hydra, no? Though tbh, if I was you,

I'd probably be voting me to

. ~KX

This hydra is now conf-scum

[Human Destroyer]

Oh you're probably all wondering why I'm ignoring Bulbazak's self-vote.

It's fantastically non-indicative of alignment and I therefore don't care about it.

P-Edit: Klick <3

[Human Destroyer]

Hey Marangal.

Serra, you should know better than to ask me if I'm scum here.

I believe I lectured you on the catch-22 of that statement in the aforementioned n00b?

I think I'm going to have to reread again, but I think an RVS policy lynch vote is a bit ridiculous.

Useless post is useless.

How about some contributions, yeah?

[Human Destroyer]

Page one--Titan's town.
The BT-Bulbazak exchange is incredibly town.

ArcAngel is scum--why vote our hydra, specifically? We weren't the only hydra to have not posted, yet there was hydras who had posted. Why not a vote on Reek or Titan?

OtterHorse looks scum. Forcing heads to claim has always been something I've despised, and quite frankly, I don't think I've seen a town player ask for it. (Granted, it doesn't happen often.)

Titan's seriously, seriously town.
Also, kinda sorta have a weak townread on Robo.

>attempts to follow logic
>can't seem to

Mastin, are you scum?

Seriously, the bolded is really,

really

dumb.

I think the ArcAngel bit is joking, but I'm not sure. Confirm or deny?

I don't get the townvibes you're getting from Titan either. Clarify please.

[Klick]

I think Voided made all the Hydras scum for a laugh.

[Human Destroyer]

BT is town I think.

VOTE: Bulbazak

WALUIGI bandwagon Time!

This is bad.

[BT]

Human Destroyer, overall read of bulbazak? We're past the self-vote.

[Human Destroyer]

I'd call him town if you held a gun to my head.

[BT]

Good read.

[BT]

Actually I'm dumb, that's instinctive.

I've played with AA9 as town, and she feels even more town in this game than in that one.

I'm leaning on this though.

[TheUnderachivers]

UA, AA9 voting for you is not a good reason to believe she is scum. That is null at best. And having played with her before, she is playing incredibly town here.

AA9 scumread is gut. Voting for a hydra is one thing. Voting for a hydra when they've done nothing to distinguish themselves from the other hydras, with the justification of it being a hydra, is entirely another. Voting for a hydra for being a hydra and giving an additional reason for why

that

hydra would be fine, but that's not what happened. It shows potentially-selective-scumhunting. Hence, the callout on AA9 being scum.

OtterHorse looks scum. Forcing heads to claim has always been something I've despised, and quite frankly, I don't think I've seen a town player ask for it. (Granted, it doesn't happen often.)

Why is scum more likely to do that?

BT's been bumped to null. The posts on page two aren't good, though overall I still think null-town.

What isn't good?

Scum are more likely to do it because scum are all I've seen do it?
I said as much in the post. I've seen people call out anonymous hydras and demanding them to claim. Every time, my memory has them as being scum. It's not a scenario which happens often (since anonymous hydras are a rarity and people calling them out even moreso), but I've seen it done multiple times by scum. It's basically a scum-motivated question. What does a town player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? Meta doesn't apply to hydras, so it can't be that.
What does a scum player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? How competent that player is, and therefore how much of a threat they are.

Mastin, are you scum?

I think the ArcAngel bit is joking, but I'm not sure. Confirm or deny?

I don't get the townvibes you're getting from Titan either. Clarify please.

I'm never scum.
The AA9-bit was as mentioned serious. Not as strong as I made it sound, but not as weak as you seem to think.
The Titan townvibes are pretty dang obvious; they're bleeding town with every single post.

[TheUnderachivers]

Oh. Forgot this. The bad posts from BT:

Because town do also do it sometimes "for the lols" or "for reactions, derp". Which is why scum feel that they can get away with it and why it needs to be forcibly eradicated. I don't mind whether you call it a policy lynch or just a lynch if that makes you feel better but it is a pro-scum move that should be punished with a lynch.

ChannelDelibird, ChannelDelibird, it rhymes with ChannelDeliturd.

It's not as horribly anti-town as you're making it out to be. Are you one of those players that go "PL PL" over something meh like this instead of useless and/or consistently anti-town play as a whole?

It wasn't until your next post that you voted for yourself, which makes your self vote look like a self conscious attempt to not vote someone else.

Don't get this. Why is this true as a second post and not as a first post?

UNVOTE: VOTE: Bulbazak

Bad vote, bad logic, questioning Titan who is a townread.

I was talking from your PoV.

Are you calling me opportunistic on page 2?

Pretty self-explanatory.

It's not much, but it weakened the townread I had on ya.

[BT]

I don't see what's bad in the logic there. If you mean questioning bulb voters + voting bulb, it should be obvious that I wanted to put more pressure on the dude regardless. It paid off.

(Snark was a part of it. Plus, calling someone opportunistic for jumping on RVS wagons IS silly.)

[ArcAngel9]

UA, AA9 voting for you is not a good reason to believe she is scum. That is null at best. And having played with her before, she is playing incredibly town here.

AA9 scumread is gut. Voting for a hydra is one thing. Voting for a hydra when they've done nothing to distinguish themselves from the other hydras, with the justification of it being a hydra, is entirely another. Voting for a hydra for being a hydra and giving an additional reason for why

that

hydra would be fine, but that's not what happened. It shows potentially-selective-scumhunting. Hence, the callout on AA9 being scum.

OtterHorse looks scum. Forcing heads to claim has always been something I've despised, and quite frankly, I don't think I've seen a town player ask for it. (Granted, it doesn't happen often.)

Why is scum more likely to do that?

BT's been bumped to null. The posts on page two aren't good, though overall I still think null-town.

What isn't good?

Scum are more likely to do it because scum are all I've seen do it?
I said as much in the post. I've seen people call out anonymous hydras and demanding them to claim. Every time, my memory has them as being scum. It's not a scenario which happens often (since anonymous hydras are a rarity and people calling them out even moreso), but I've seen it done multiple times by scum. It's basically a scum-motivated question. What does a town player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? Meta doesn't apply to hydras, so it can't be that.
What does a scum player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? How competent that player is, and therefore how much of a threat they are.

Mastin, are you scum?

I think the ArcAngel bit is joking, but I'm not sure. Confirm or deny?

I don't get the townvibes you're getting from Titan either. Clarify please.

I'm never scum.
The AA9-bit was as mentioned serious. Not as strong as I made it sound, but not as weak as you seem to think.
The Titan townvibes are pretty dang obvious; they're bleeding town with every single post.

Why are you exaggerating my RVS vote ? unless you want fake prove it that it is scummy, when there isn't it anything.

[Human Destroyer]

I'm never scum.
The AA9-bit was as mentioned serious. Not as strong as I made it sound, but not as weak as you seem to think.
The Titan townvibes are pretty dang obvious; they're bleeding town with every single post.

1) Your meta says otherwise.
2) What? Why should she

not

vote you? Seriously, scum motivation for her voting of you, please and thank you.
3) Why do you suck at explaining townreads?

[Human Destroyer]

AA9 scumread is gut. Voting for a hydra is one thing. Voting for a hydra when they've done nothing to distinguish themselves from the other hydras, with the justification of it being a hydra, is entirely another. Voting for a hydra for being a hydra and giving an additional reason for why that hydra would be fine, but that's not what happened. It shows potentially-selective-scumhunting. Hence, the callout on AA9 being scum.

I mean like, really, this is such an overanalysis of a harmless RVS post it isn't even funny.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheUnderachivers

[TheUnderachivers]

2) What? Why should she not vote you? Seriously, scum motivation for her voting of you, please and thank you.

We have a town PM. Scum motive for voting us found.

(In all seriousness--I've explained it. Potentially-selective-scumhunting. In the sense that she might have been singling out a player [us] while ignoring others.)

[Human Destroyer]

2) What? Why should she not vote you? Seriously, scum motivation for her voting of you, please and thank you.

We have a town PM. Scum motive for voting us found.

(In all seriousness--I've explained it. Potentially-selective-scumhunting. In the sense that she might have been singling out a player [us] while ignoring others.)

vote hydras

VOTE: The UnderAchivers

"She said vote hydras and voted me, one of the hydras, in RVS, she must be selectively scumhunting!"

That's like, as weak as my grandma.

And she's

dead

, so she's definitely not very strong.

[TheUnderachivers]

Also, this is a classic catch-22.
People ask for reasons on AA9.
Give none, I'm scum.
Give them, I'm still scum.

I already told you the read wasn't strong.

[Metal Overlord]

Yeah, I meant since, you know, Metal Sonic and all. Anyway, we really need to stop starting the game out like this. Metal should be mainly in charge of the Hydra, I'll post if I see anything important, otherwise, I'm gonna try and focus on my other games.

How can there be any debate about if a Hydra trying to be anonymous should be pressured or not? Unless I missed something, the more information available, the more it helps the village. Also, while I tend to support policy lynches, policy lynching over a self-vote seems kinda . . . meh.

~KX

[TheUnderachivers]

What does a town player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? Meta doesn't apply to hydras, so it can't be that.
What does a scum player gain from knowing who's in a hydra? How competent that player is, and therefore how much of a threat they are.

This.
There's no town info to be gained from learning who a member of a hydra is.
There is scum info to be gained from learning who a member of a hydra is.

[BT]

MO, comment on current events please.

[ArcAngel9]

TheUnderachivers-

you're seriously trying hard harder harder and hardest to prove something that is not there..
Anyone who can see and read can you tell you that my vote was a harmless RVS vote. I just randomly started with vote hydras and chose your becuz i know you.. that was it.

If i read you as scum why would i change back to another person? I don't know why are you doing so much to prove something which make no sense.

I thought you're far better player than this.. This is not something i thought i could see right on my face on day 1 and not certainly expected from you and most definitely this is no where close to a town play.

A) you're out of your mind
B) your logic scums
C) you're scum
D) you're one crazy anti town

VOTE: The Underachievers

now go ahead and scream that i am doing OMGUS....