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[Jack]

Vote:mallowgeno

Is sounding very scummy, for this post and others:

I never said it was a tell. You just did. I WILL say that that just makes me suspect you more and I think you just slipped.

[Porochaz]

Llama - 3 - raivann, Budja, Fishythefish
Fishythefish - 3 - xvart, llamaeatataco, Flameaxe
mallowgeno - 2 - Blackberry, Jack
Strangercoug - 1 - mallowgeno
Flameaxe - 1 - Strangercoug

Not Voting - 2 - Anon, Mitsuru

[Mitsuru Kirijo]

Vote: Mallogeno

I'm already getting a scummy read from this guy.

[mallowgeno]

Vote: Mallogeno

I'm already getting a scummy read from this guy.

Yeah and that statement gives me a scummy read too.

[Jack]

Vote: Mallogeno

I'm already getting a scummy read from this guy.

Yeah and that statement gives me a scummy read too.

Did my statement give you a scummy read?

[mallowgeno]

No but Mitsuru not explaining why she got a scummy read on me seems scummy to me

[Mitsuru Kirijo]

I think it's blatantly obvious. You're making no sense. Voting seemingly at random, and saying you'll keep your vote on for flippancy, a null tell considering flippancy is a part of the game. After being told as much, you make a babbling, nonsensical post, which you haven't explained despite three players expressing confusion. THAT is why I'm voting you.

[StrangerCoug]

I never said it was a tell. You just did. I WILL say that that just makes me suspect you more and I think you just slipped.

This is an outright lie. I made no statement that being flippant is indeed a tell, so your case on me has absolutely no bearing.

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Vote: mallowgeno

[Jack]

fos:strangercoug

feeling like that was a bandwagon vote...bad post...that has mallow as just a VI which I shall reconsider.

unvote

[Blackberry]

Unvote

Vote: Budja

I want to see how you react to this. You've done something that raises a red flag to me (I'm not revealing what it is - because it is a tell that I think is more accurate than a lot of other tells, and by revealing it - it prevents mafia from doing that tell in the future).

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SC - I would like you to elaborate on your vote for mallow.

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I disagree with Jack. I don't think SC would bandwagon so quickly if SC was scum. But that's just my opinion.

[Jack]

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Vote: Budja

I want to see how you react to this. You've done something that raises a red flag to me (I'm not revealing what it is - because it is a tell that I think is more accurate than a lot of other tells, and by revealing it - it prevents mafia from doing that tell in the future).

SC - I would like you to elaborate on your vote for mallow.

me too.

I disagree with Jack. I don't think SC would bandwagon so quickly if SC was scum. But that's just my opinion.

Why don't you think he would? When scum see a VI on the road to being strung up they often like to be on early. Or he could have been scum uncomfortable with his vote and looking to switch.

[StrangerCoug]

SC - I would like you to elaborate on your vote for mallow.

Look at my posts in ISO and tell me if and where I contradict myself. Before he claimed that I said being flippant is a tell, he would make more sense to me as misguided. I'm made more confident that he's actually scum by the fact that he's also OMGUS'd Mitsuru Kirijo. Granted, she did not explain her vote, but I really don't think she can be faulted if she's paying attention.

Jack, I asked for your opinion on Fishythefish; have you given it?

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: I'd be uncomfortable with my vote regardless of my alignment because I was still random voting.

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP #2: Mitsuru Kirijo

DID

explain her vote. Just not immediately.

[Blackberry]

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Vote: Budja

I want to see how you react to this. You've done something that raises a red flag to me (I'm not revealing what it is - because it is a tell that I think is more accurate than a lot of other tells, and by revealing it - it prevents mafia from doing that tell in the future).

Why are you making a face at this? Express yourself in words please.

I disagree with Jack. I don't think SC would bandwagon so quickly if SC was scum. But that's just my opinion.

Why don't you think he would? When scum see a VI on the road to being strung up they often like to be on early. Or he could have been scum uncomfortable with his vote and looking to switch.

Because scum wouldn't want to be that obvious. I don't think. I agree that what SC did looked like obvious bandwagoning or what you explained. But I think it was too obvious and scum would be smarter than that.

[Jack]

What does this mean?

Because scum wouldn't want to be that obvious. I don't think. I agree that what SC did looked like obvious bandwagoning or what you explained. But I think it was too obvious and scum would be smarter than that.

Scum wouldn't want to be seem scummy? I agree. But if we assume that that their wants are completely reflected in their behavior, then we may as well random vote.

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secret scumtell on coug.

Although he is misreading mallow. Which I suppose he is equally likely to do as town as he is as scum.

[Budja]

But I think it was too obvious and scum would be smarter than that.

Fallacy.

Don't like Coug's post. He's pick #2.

[StrangerCoug]

Although he is misreading mallow. Which I suppose he is equally likely to do as town as he is as scum.

I'm trying to pinpoint what's with this. It's not a tell either way—in fact, it makes statistical sense—but the wording doesn't seem right. Would I care about misreads as scum?

[Blackberry]

What does this mean?

It means I think you are being lazy and I don't want to let you get away with that (plus, I'd rather see HOW you respond rather than just post a smiley face).

[Jack]

Although he is misreading mallow. Which I suppose he is equally likely to do as town as he is as scum.

I'm trying to pinpoint what's with this. It's not a tell either way—in fact, it makes statistical sense—but the wording doesn't seem right. Would I care about misreads as scum?

1/3 of what I originally found scummy about your vote post was the "this is an outright lie" part. It isn't (mallow just meant that you brought the question of whether it was a tell into the argument). But that doesn't really seem like an intentional misread.

[Jack]

What does this mean?

It means I think you are being lazy and I don't want to let you get away with that (plus, I'd rather see HOW you respond rather than just post a smiley face).

So how about ocho and uno pairing up?

[Blackberry]

So how about ocho and uno pairing up?

Huh?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

[StrangerCoug]

Although he is misreading mallow. Which I suppose he is equally likely to do as town as he is as scum.

I'm trying to pinpoint what's with this. It's not a tell either way—in fact, it makes statistical sense—but the wording doesn't seem right. Would I care about misreads as scum?

1/3 of what I originally found scummy about your vote post was the "this is an outright lie" part. It isn't (mallow just meant that you brought the question of whether it was a tell into the argument).

The sentence "You just did" leads me to believe that it is otherwise. Look at his actual post:

I never said it was a tell. You just did. I WILL say that that just makes me suspect you more and I think you just slipped.

To me, that implies that, because I said being flippant is a tell, I have slipped and therefore become scummier.

Look what happens to the meaning if we delete the sentence in contention:

I never said it was a tell. I WILL say that that just makes me suspect you more and I think you just slipped.

That would tell me that, because I brought whether being flippant is a tell into the argument, I have slipped and therefore become scummier.

Do you interpret the original post and the modified post differently from what I do?

[Jack]

Also, you didn't answer my question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eY4qU80lPM#t=7m58s

This is what I think of whenever anyone says that.

[Blackberry]

Also, you didn't answer my question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eY4qU80lPM#t=7m58s

This is what I think of whenever anyone says that.

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I feel like you are trying to just provoke me. Which isn't very helpful for anyone. Are you going to answer the question?