Open 170 - Bird C9 (Game Over)

[hohum]

god you're an idiot.

Ad hom one-liners aren't earning you any points.

I don't have to justify my position in a theory debate to you. You're not the MS czar here. If you want to advocate my lynch over a disagreement on game theory go right ahead but it isn't going to boad well for you at all when I flip.

[Eldritch Lord]

god you're an idiot.

Ad hom one-liners aren't earning you any points.

I don't have to justify my position in a theory debate to you. You're not the MS czar here. If you want to advocate my lynch over a disagreement on game theory go right ahead but it isn't going to boad well for you at all when I flip.

*Freudian Slip
*Okay with D-1 quickhammer [x]
*Possible PR fishing

1/3 has to do with theory. Also, I don't recall ever playing a game with you.

[hohum]

hint: It's well known that this account is an alt for dcorbe

[Eldritch Lord]

Hah, forgive me I don't partake in the MS community very often, in fact this is the first set of games I've played since 74. Did you get lynched first in our last game for your blatant ad hominem attacks and emotional, valueless responses?

I see yours hasn't changed at all either.

[Eldritch Lord]

Which has me second guessing my case against you, it might be that you're just naturally this headstrong and it shows through in your town play.

Still, I feel like that's a weak, metagame point, you could be acting this way to invoke that old persona. Vote stays.

[hohum]

My "emotional, headstrong" style of play routinely catches scum. In that game and many others after that.

You would clearly rather partake in a long drawn out multi-page argument with me than stop and consider the mechanics of the setup. That's an emotion-based reaction. Clearly you favor hypocrisy over well-reasoned arguments.

Unvote, Vote, EL

[hohum]

10 bucks says he calls that an OMGUS vote.

[Eldritch Lord]

Except it didn't catch scum in that game, it got you lynched first. Perhaps you should re-think your play style. You haven't responded to any of my actual points against you, instead favoring childish one-line posts that have no relevance to the game:

I see your play style hasn't improved at all since we played together in one of the older scottish mafia games.

I'm ready for some outside input.

Also, baseless accusations like:

Clearly you favor hypocrisy over well-reasoned arguments.

Serve as nothing more than further proof of your ad absurdum style of argument which extends any reasonable point

you could've been making

to an illogical extreme and your inability to cite the source information for your accusations.

Vote: EL

Simple OMGUS

[Eldritch Lord]

10 bucks says he calls that an OMGUS vote.

Call 'em like I see 'em.

[hohum]

I've responded to you about as much as I'm going to right now. I've already got a fairly good read on you. I don't need to continue this asinine argument in order to further my read.

There's 5 other people in this game that I need better reads on.

[Netlava]

L-1 is fine if a scum quickhammers and gets caught. Town is actually favored to win in these situations. A 3 person lylo is about 50-50 for scum and town. But with the existence of power roles, town gets the edge.

The problem is, what if town "accidentally" hammers? Someone like... say, me, while not paying attention, might "accidentally" hammer someone... We wouldn't want that to happen, wouldn't we?

[Netlava]

I feel like rolling the dice for no apparent reason.

Original Roll String: 1d7

1 7-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[Netlava]

@EL & hohum: How scummy would you rate the other guy at this point?

As a disclaimer, I'm not trying to induce tunnel-vision or anything of the sort... but rather for other reasons...

[Eldritch Lord]

L-1 is fine if a scum quickhammers and gets caught. Town is actually favored to win in these situations. A 3 person lylo is about 50-50 for scum and town. But with the existence of power roles, town gets the edge.

The problem is, what if town "accidentally" hammers? Someone like... say, me, while not paying attention, might "accidentally" hammer someone... We wouldn't want that to happen, wouldn't we?

You've summed up the argument, including my side, which dcorbe refused to dignify with a response.

How scummy would you rate the other guy at this point?

He's dodging a lot and resorting to ad hom and refusing to answer valid points by brushing them off, calling them ridiculous, etc. Still, this reminds me of my previous play with him in Open 74, he acted the same
way as town. He wasn't scum, but he was acting useless enough for the town to have no problem lynching him first.

I would hate to make the same mistake again, confusing lack of content for scumminess. Again, maybe that's why he's acting this way though, to invoke my memory of that game. For me, its very WIFOMy. For now though, I think he deserves my vote.

[Yankee]

Sorry guys for not posting in a while, but my work schedule is hectic right now and i don't have much time for mafia. I just read over the last few pages, and I do agree that hohum is acting very aggressively and i do find that post where he referred to the town as "they" interesting, especially for an experienced player as hohum.

But one post that gave me a scum-vibe was Post 85 by Netlava. That statement about a town accidentally quick-hammering day 1 where he calls himself a townie by putting himself in that hypothetical townies shoes seems odd to me. I guess any person that refers to themselves as townies sends me scum-vibes because it has absolutely no meaning in this game.

Also, like someone said earlier, I am new to this game (just finishing up a game, Newbie 826), and I am sorry if I seem rather "noobish" to you guys while I learn more about this game. Like can someone please tell me how to quote multiple posts?

[Netlava]

Yeah, post 85, I was making the threat of "accidentally" hammering. I can see why it's threatening.

To quote posts, just use the tag:

Code: Select all

[quote]Insert text here[/quote]

[Snix]

Vote: Hohum

I don't like the way you play, you are not being helpful towards town and just play yourself in a bad light.

[hohum]

Hi!

Playstyle lynches are going to cause us to lose

but oh well.

I'm done, lynch away.

[Netlava]

@hohum: How scummy or not-scummy would you rate the EL at this point? (just trying to figure out where you stand)

@Yankee: You can also use the following:

Code: Select all

[quote="Netlava"]text[/quote]

To quote a specific person, like "netlava" in this instance, btw.

[Eldritch Lord]

Playstyle lynches are going to cause us to lose

but oh well.

I'm done, lynch away.

Childish "I give up, screw you guys" post, maybe you should actually be posting instead of just dropping insults here and there and acting self-righteous.

Going down as a failed appeal to emotion.

[hohum]

I'm calling snix+EL as the scum team now.

[Eldritch Lord]

@hohum: How scummy or not-scummy would you rate the EL at this point? (just trying to figure out where you stand)

Netlava, you seem fairly content to be sitting on the outside of this without casting a vote in either direction. How do you feel about all of this?

Despite your disclaimer, I'm afraid you might be trying to tunnel vision while maintaining a safe distance from the wagon.

[Netlava]

Eh, I'm not seeing anything here.

[Yankee]

Netlava, i feel like you are trying to focus attention on this EL/hohum ordeal. Rather strange to me. What are YOUR opinions on other players, such as myself, snix, slepz etc.

I think EL and hohum are drawing our attention away from other possibilities.

[Netlava]

Right now I'm a bit suspicious of Toro & slepz