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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 718, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not mafia - I wouldn't be pushing knightmare at the end of day 1 if I were mafia, I'd just disappear so he couldn't be lynched
Why not? Wasn't a Knightmare lynch looking set in stone with or without your help? Surely you bus there for the towncred rather than lurk it out.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:03 pm

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Hey, Looker, Dunny's not happening today. You need to switch to brass or there's no way you're not lynched.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:06 pm

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In post 722, Looker wrote:And it would literally be more effective to bus than to no lynch.
I don't agree with that though
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:07 pm

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In post 725, Paragon wrote:
In post 718, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not mafia - I wouldn't be pushing knightmare at the end of day 1 if I were mafia, I'd just disappear so he couldn't be lynched
Why not? Wasn't a Knightmare lynch looking set in stone with or without your help? Surely you bus there for the towncred rather than lurk it out.
On day 1. We ended up no lynching, but I moved my vote to knightmare to try to secure a lynch

On day 2, I don't think knightmare would have been lynched if I wasn't pushing him all day
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:23 pm

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Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill providing they aren't also using their switch.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:25 pm

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Have y'all been playing all this time not knowing the rules?
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:29 pm

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UNVOTE: Looker

Actually, I'm not sure if he fakes not knowing about that
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:04 pm

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In post 718, Dunnstral wrote:Mafia cannot flip the switch and perform a night kill at the same time - this thinking falls flat.
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:51 pm

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Alright, cool, Dunny. Let's lynch brass then.

You're SK or town if those events are true.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:37 pm

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Looker (2):
Raya36, brassherald
brassherald (2):
Paragon, Galron
Dunnstral (1):
Looker

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Black Ranger, Dunnstral

With 7 Alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-05-19 14:42:00)
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:22 pm

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In post 732, Galron wrote:
In post 718, Dunnstral wrote:Mafia cannot flip the switch and perform a night kill at the same time - this thinking falls flat.
???
Looker says that I'm aligned with brass and brass is trying to draw attention because I'm the vig switch

I'm saying that it doesn't matter because a single mafia cannot both shoot and flip the switch at the same time, so the distinction is a moot point Also, I pointed out that vig shooting tonight doesn't really help us, as well
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:23 pm

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In post 733, Paragon wrote:Alright, cool, Dunny. Let's lynch brass then.

You're SK or town if those events are true.
I don't scumread brass though
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 726, Paragon wrote:Hey, Looker, Dunny's not happening today. You need to switch to brass or there's no way you're not lynched.
It's not lost on me that we're still on this trend: last-minute deadline conversation while needing a replacement.

I thought brassherald would come in and say more.

VOTE: brassherald
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 12:49 am

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Dunn, just vote me. I'm VT and this game was fucked day 1 when you all got jack shit done.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 1:25 am

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I mean, if my options are lynch somebody I think is town or nolynch again, I think we have better chances of winning off of the nolynch.

And before you guys get up in arms: If we lynch brassherald and he's town, we'll have to nolynch the next day anyway, so really we're just shifting the timing around.
In post 731, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: Looker

Actually, I'm not sure if he fakes not knowing about that
Rethinking myself here. The mafia not being able to activate the switch at the same time as they are making kills may not have even come into play before now, so theoretically he can not know how his own factions abilities work. Or he can be SK.

End of the day, I don't think brassherald is mafia, and sk feels unlikely. I'm going to place my vote for looker and check back in with the thread periodically.

VOTE: Looker
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:07 am

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In post 731, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: Looker

Actually, I'm not sure if he fakes not knowing about that
It seemed genuine to me. UNVOTE:
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:14 am

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Well do you think brassherald is scum?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:17 am

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In post 734, TheWizard wrote:
Looker (2):
Raya36, brassherald
brassherald (2):
Paragon, Galron
Dunnstral (1):
Looker

Not Voting (2):
Black Ranger, Dunnstral

With 7 Alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-05-19 14:42:00)
I don't think Raya orbrassherald are mafia. I had good feelings about Black Ranger, too

I probably should have stayed the course on Paragon. Galron's slot has been sketching me out
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:20 am

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I was just about to make a bold suggestion and say it could be Galron
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:21 am

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I'm looking at Knightmare's mentions of that slot and there are only 2 tiny responses to chk that aren't even relevant to each other.
In post 271, Knightmare491 wrote:
In post 269, chkflip wrote:Looker, sell me on Mathwagon because I honestly don't see it.
Get some new specs yo
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In post 272, chkflip wrote:I read as someone of who knows how their past games have gone, understand a weakness of theirs, and are trying to improve. That's NAI. You wanna try again and not be cheeky this time?
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:22 am

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Solon makes no mention of Knight
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:27 am

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When you look at chk you have this as the first mention:
In post 279, chkflip wrote:Hi I'm chkflip and I'm always angry. :D

Yeah the Math wagon is trash. C-caw c-caw Klick.

I'd be inclined to push Knight if we weren't so close to deadline.
This earned a few votes on Knight forcing him to follow
In post 283, chkflip wrote:WHELP.

VOTE: Knightmare491
But to me that "whelp" doesn't seem like a good whelp?

Then he immediately asks for an extension. An opportunity to dismantle a wagon which would only grow because of how close to deadline they were
In post 307, chkflip wrote:
@mod: hate to be "that guy" but with all these replace outs and what not, any way we could extend the phase?
In post 338, chkflip wrote:8.5 hours y'all.

Knight or Math. Make a fucking decision.

I'll happily clap back to Maria without issue but y'all need to stop talking about it and be about it.
This post he doesn't push for Knight. He pushes for just a decision and even says he would go back on a counterwagon.
In post 344, chkflip wrote:That's L-1 Knight. You can claim a PR if you'd like but a this point it's you or nobody, so. Shouldn't have flailed.
Knowing Knight is scum now the "shouldn't have flailed" sounds odd too.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:33 am

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The next day he is a lot more on Knightmare. I suggest that the Knight lynch didn't go through because of scum resistance. He says that it was probably just because of lurkers and NAI. So he starts with a light defense of Knight. Knight gets another vote and someone votes Dunn. Chk votes Dunn. Knightmare follows that vote. Dunn gets unvoted and the biggest wagon become Knight at L-2. There is no hope for Knight at this point and Chk puts him at L-1 and that's when the pushing (or I think bussing) starts by saying he's lurky and asking if we can hammer Knight.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:37 am

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I'm going to put my vote here. I think it has high potential of flipping scum. VOTE: Galron
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2020 2:55 am

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VOTE: Galron

747 in context is pretty convincing to me. I'd guess Paragon as his partner if correct. Looker can be SK or town

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