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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:20 am

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In post 702, Pine wrote:There is just no way you’re the kill. You’re too likely a mislynch target.

Nah, kill is either DGB or myself. She’s shown resilience against a serious wagon attempt, and rn no one is SRing me. Outside chance Nips or EP takes it to obfuscate things. You’re like...fifth or sixth on the hit list
And this is trash because DGB never fucking is night killed.

She’s doing extremely poor analysis work, weak ass OMGUS, and is being hard pushed by me.

I’m one of the players who’s night killed the most on this site, and I’ve been doing the most work, so yeah, okay. That makes sense.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:20 am

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And compared to the majority of players, she’s barely here.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:23 am

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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:24 am

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The thing is, if Skygazer is in fact scum, Pine’s play just made it much more likely she pulls off a win.

The plan I put out took account for SkygazerScum, with wiggle room to get possible Flips deepwolf.

I feel like Pine is a mislynch, but he has deepwolf equity, so whatever. He also is stopping the DGB, which has scum equity, even though I think Occam’s Razor is DGB is just scum, which is why she can’t discredit me and asks questions answered in the quotes she quoted. Because I’m just right.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:28 am

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@Pine - would you lynch Flips?
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:29 pm

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I looked over your posts again, @Pretentious.

Scum!DGB FV just doesn't make sense to me. That'd be one IT and 6 VT vs a going and FV. What function does FV fill here?

With that in mind, I'd like to keep DGB alive another day to see if someone gets a fruit. You correctly raised the possibility of the fruit target being the same as the scum kill. It's possible but unlikely - I say we take the chance.

Regarding the lynch today:
In post 624, Pretentious wrote:Why would there be a Roleblocker in this setup?

Actually, scum made a kill last night. That was their action. They’re likely not multitasking in a game like this, and if they are it’s just DGB Multitasking fruit, but i think that was a lie.

There’s not really an answer to Egix not getting a fruit. DGB being first hurt her.

If DGB flips town, then Egix is Ascetic, and Gamma could have been Informed of an Ascetic Role.

I think we kill DGB here.
In post 628, Pretentious wrote:There’s no other way the fruit couldn’t have gotten to Egix/Kuribo other than DGB lying about sending it, (my theory is they are that role, and said 2 shot to try and “prove it to us” tonight.)

Or Egix is Ascetic.

I’m not seeing the point in having multitasking here, so yeah.

DGB today, and that probably ends the game, if not Egix is conf scum.
Why don't we reverse the order and lynch Egix today? It'll confirm or sent the ascetic line + give a chance for DGB to hand out a fruit.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:30 pm

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None of the above applies if we have a multitask RBer. I don't see how we figure that out though.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 725, Pretentious wrote:And this is trash because DGB never fucking is night killed.
LOL I'm always nightkilled early. Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 673, Pretentious wrote:Occam’s razor is DGB’s fruit is missing because A) she couldn’t send fruit because she was making kill. B)Egix is Ascetic C) she lied. This is why finding out if she’s a fruit vendor by night actions is useless because it doesn’t stop the need to lynch her tomorrow.
How 'bout

EGIX LIED and DID RECEIVE THE FRUIT???
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:05 pm

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In post 700, Pretentious wrote:I’m the most likely death tonight even if DGB is town because it can push there.
No worries, your idiocy will carry you to end game.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:08 pm

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In post 713, Egix96 wrote:
In post 709, Pretentious wrote:VOTE: Pine

Aight, Egix, you can go here.
Sigh

VOTE: King of the Forest

Also since when is Gazer scumreading my slot?
Oh look who's speed-hopping on another ridiculous wagon.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:30 pm

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do you think kuribo was scummy, then?
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:19 pm

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No - but it is very strange that my fruit was not received.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 732, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 725, Pretentious wrote:And this is trash because DGB never fucking is night killed.
LOL I'm always nightkilled early. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Not when I’m pushing you.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:22 pm

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Pretty obvious.

Thought older players were supposed to have common sense. Guess not.

Knew I was pretty advanced, but I thought the older players were closer to my level. Guess that was just a myth.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 733, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 673, Pretentious wrote:Occam’s razor is DGB’s fruit is missing because A) she couldn’t send fruit because she was making kill. B)Egix is Ascetic C) she lied. This is why finding out if she’s a fruit vendor by night actions is useless because it doesn’t stop the need to lynch her tomorrow.
How 'bout

EGIX LIED and DID RECEIVE THE FRUIT???
Sure.

I’ve already brought up ScumEgix potential, especially if you are town. Your flip would make that much more likely if you flip town.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:24 pm

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I stopped caring.

I realized that no matter how hard I try to explain, people just can’t comprehend what I see as basic.

I have an issue seeing what I perceive as straight basic level when it’s completely complex to others. It really puts how next level I am into perspective.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:40 pm

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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:56 pm

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@Pretentious, can you ease up a bit with the whole 'pretentious persona' thing you're doing.

If it's not an act:
Instead of assuming everyone else is the problem, consider the possibility that you're not as good at explaining things as you think you are. Plenty of experts can explain their work/research to a lay person without compromising the substance of the material.

Happy to chat more about written and oral advocacy after the game of that interests you. I'd like to learn how to do mechanical solves. I've mostly played mafia IRL, and mechanical solves in those games are rare compared to forum games.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:11 pm

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Alright let me literally spell it out for you

D G B S E N T F R U I T

O N L Y C L A I M E D P R

F R U I T N O S H O W U P

E I T H E R D G B I S L Y I N G O R E G I X IS SCUM A S C E T I C O R L Y I N G A B O U T R E C E I V I N G I T

SO LYNCHING DGB CONFIRMS WHICH IS HAPPENING.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:57 pm

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Those who can’t do, teach.

But I do, so I don’t teach.

People watch me do.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:47 am

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Or there’s a scum roleblocker

Or kuribo/Egix did receive the fruit

Or a few more obscure things

However, your attacking of everyone despite insisting on the aforementioned dichotomy makes you a hazard to the game, and I am seriously considering a for-real policy vote on you.

That said, for how Towny kuribo was, Egix has indeed been super sketchy
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:16 am

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In post 739, Pretentious wrote:Thought older players were supposed to have common sense.
Seeing that you're completely wrong, I'll stick to my breezy play style, thank you very much.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:20 am

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In post 746, Pine wrote:Or there’s a scum roleblocker
That's what I said. It's the most likely explanation.

If it's a low power game with an informed townie and a fruit vendor, then a roleblocker wouldn't be all that powerful since he'd be only stopping fruit LOL.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:20 am

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In post 746, Pine wrote:That said, for how Towny kuribo was, Egix has indeed been super sketchy
I'd be willing to lynch that.
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