Mini 1660 - TTH's Mini Normal (Game Over)

[Slandaar]

[Slandaar]

Jingles is the scumsie. Such an elaborate plan to kill TAL instead of me but I can see through it. Jingles knew if he kills TAL I would think there was no reason for him to kill TAL thus the scum must be Fishie employing a devious tactic. Then Jingles wins without having to convince TAL and Fish he is town as he knew they were just pretending to suspect each other and really were both going to vote him in lylo today.

I see no flaw in my logic. I will probably vote Jingles later today after Fishie has posted.

[Jingle]

What? I'm fucking conf based on the flips, Sland. Look at my ISO, Skold's ISO, and RM/Collatz's ISO, then tell my why the only appreciable thing I've been doing since D1 is pushing scumlynches.

If I'm scum here, I shoot you, the obvious NK choice, leaving me, a tunneling TAL, and Fish. And I win. No questions, no problems, because no one has any reason to reevaluate.

[Formerfish]

I ended up staying very late from my open today. Let me get settled in and I'll try to make heads or tails of what the fuck is going on. Also, sland is now ubertown for not hammering me when he had the obvious chance. Jingle, was your scum read of sland contingent on RM flipping town?

[Slandaar]

What is going on from your POV is Jingles is scum.

Not sure what else you need to work out.

[Formerfish]

I guess I was just looking for an answer to my question to Jingle. But you're right, I do not see you as scum, and I am not scum so it has to be Jingle. I'm just upset that I was hard town reading him for so long.

Vote Jingle

[Jingle]

I ended up staying very late from my open today. Let me get settled in and I'll try to make heads or tails of what the fuck is going on. Also, sland is now ubertown for not hammering me when he had the obvious chance. Jingle, was your scum read of sland contingent on RM flipping town?

Yeah. Balance wise, a two scum team fits against a vig and a doc.

I'm serious about you having better odds killing sland and trying to convince me with Archmage. I'm obvtown here, and sland can figure that out if he takes the time. I'm impressed you had the stones to try it though.

[Jingle]

TTH refuses to make you hammer, sland. So you're gonna have to do it unassisted.

[Slandaar]

It's OK I have 6 months to make a decision

[TellTaleHeart]

What's that? You want a 6 minute deadline?

OK.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-05-24 10:42:12)

[TellTaleHeart]

Deadline: (expired on 2015-06-07 10:43:20)

[Jingle]

Hey sland, go look at TAL's case on FF again. I literally had to do 0 work to get FF lynched if I shot you. Or no lynched.

I'm obvtown. FF got fucked by replacements (sorry man, it sucks) and the game is over.

728 makes it clear that he expected me to suspect you today.

I know you have history fakeclaiming as town (reference: our first game together) and would not have gambled with you fakeclaiming as a full tracker.

It's over, town wins, and I can once again be happy that my inability to play town well hasn't fucked me completely.

[Slandaar]

Skold is scum.

Skold is scum

VOTE: pisskop

Both kills point at Skold slightly looking at their ISOs.

I think that this is likely scum.

(Skold)

As far as scumreading you, yes. Yes I am.

(Skold)

Skold wagon D2: No-one is voting.

No, you (Skold) and Jingle are town-reads.

I'll lynch anyone else.

I expect more from Jingle though.

But this is a strange kill for you to make although maybe you saw the doubt in his mind and became worried.

[Jingle]

Mhmm.

And compare that to how I treated RM yesterday? I forced that lynch through. All I had to do to win as scum was support TAL on FF, then let RM hammer.

Explain that to me, please.

[Slandaar]

What do you think about this argument Fishie? Jingle could have just lynched you yesterday with TAL's support...

[Formerfish]

I dont know how to explain someone else's thought process. I could see Jingle and RM discussing a bussing plot over night and just fucking going for it. I could see Jingle getting paranoia about Arch turning his read around and voting Jingle for some reason that he found over night. I could guess that maybe Jingle just wanted to fuck with you by keeping you alive and forcing you to make a choice here. Maybe he figured that it didn't matter who was left alive and wanted to throw some additional shade on me with the kill on arch.

[Slandaar]

That is a very good counter to Jingles argument.

Jingles do you have a response to this?

[Jingle]

Okay, found something.

Vote analysis says that Jingle and Fish can't be town together, because then RM would be town and fish would have hammered RM and won the game.

Therefor, the only two scum teams are Jingle and RM or fish and RM. The RM lynch is safe every time.

fish's hesitation in voting and inconsistent behavior regarding intent reinforce my opinions on the scum team. I am even more certain than before that RM and Formerfish are scum.

I will hammer RationalMadman following one post by each player in the game, if no player posts any objections.

Or before the day ends, in case RM does something screwy like never posting for the rest of the day.

Nope.

Now go ahead and look at TAL's ISO and tell me that he wouldn't have taken the support on FF and run with it. If I were scum, this would have been the single worst kill from my POV, and I don't play against my wincon.

This LYLO is obvious, Sland.

[Slandaar]

Fishie had a better chance vs Archmage than you.

Fish have you played with MD before?

[Formerfish]

Mnemonic? Once or twice I think. The only game I can remember off the top of my head was fruit basket mafia.

[Jingle]

I ended up staying very late from my open today. Let me get settled in and I'll try to make heads or tails of what the fuck is going on. Also, sland is now ubertown for not hammering me when he had the obvious chance. Jingle, was your scum read of sland contingent on RM flipping town?

Fish obviously thought I'd suspect you. Given that you've come into the last three days expressing suspicion of me too, he obviously thought we'd suspect each other. Look, Sland, at the post you made yesterday that said I was town. Then think about why you said that.

[Slandaar]

Fish do you have an argument against Jingle or are you going to keep posting only when I ask you something?

[Slandaar]

We could take a page out of Thor's book and just push him to l-1, I'm sure unlynch wouldn't mind since its the same thing he is doing. (TO SKOLD)

Unlynch, bullet point me your reasoning on Skold scum.

You've been on skold since post 33, yet nowhere in your iso does it even begin to go into any detail about what that is. In post 55 you call out skold/piss/collatz as a scum team. You were wrong about piss, maybe something to back up a vote on skold would help you get him lynched. Otherwise it just looks like you are baselessly tunneling on someone.

I did not pick up on that from Skold, but the idea makes sense. Do you think that scum would be so brazen to put the idea of shooting one of their own just to block it?

Never suspected Skold or Collatz, Fishie?

Perhaps you can explain why.

[Jingle]

That's just the thing, Sland, there is no argument against Jingle. I'm obvtown. You're conftown. Fish played a good game, but he's caught now. Honestly, he probably deserves the win more than town does. The scumteam fostered apathy in town incredibly well, and I'm sorry it's gonna turn out this way Fish.

[Slandaar]

There is an argument against you. I posted it.