NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Sakura Hana (8) -

Tammy

, Casso the King of Seals,

DOMO

,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Sakura Hana,

geists

,

Desperado

,

KoreanBBQ

Why is Sakura voting herself?

Would want to burn SAD for this, alone.

What is this shit I don't even...

[Empire]

Day 5, Votecount 5

Titus (2)

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Prophylaxis, Norlkaz

Ser Arthur Dayne (2)

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Sakura Hana, pieguyn

Prophylaxis (2)

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zMuffinMan, Titus

Not Voting (7)

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geists, Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, KoreanBBQ, goodmorning, Ser Arthur Dayne

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is on February 12th at 7:35 AM EST or in (expired on 2014-02-12 08:35:22).

Mod Notes

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N/A

[Prophylaxis]

unvote, vote SAD

Larger wagon; Titus can wait.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

And then there's me wondering why you have me as a scumread, yet you're not voting me.

Oh I'm sorry, does it make a huge difference to you?

See this is the thing I mean. You keep spewing things right and left that literally serve no purpose other than to look like you're trying.

Name one scum motivation for me "thinking you're scum" but not voting you. Go ahead. Enlighten me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

unvote, vote SAD

Larger wagon; Titus can wait.

[Prophylaxis]

And then there's me wondering why you have me as a scumread, yet you're not voting me.

Name one scum motivation for me "thinking you're scum" but not voting you. Go ahead. Enlighten me.

Not voting your strongest scumread is scummy because it shows a lack of conviction in one's reads.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Why would scum have a lack of conviction in their reads rather than a townperson.

[zMuffinMan]

And here's Gen's post

looks like he was trying to shake off your question. it was a round about way of not giving a real answer. rest of the post looks pretty bullshit, though, given his later call-out of proph was for lurking and there was no followup to that call-out

...So yeah, it's really not as poor as you're making it out to be. The only town on town lynches are fairly rare.

if you give five examples and one of those is a town on town lynch, how can you call it rare? i'm not even arguing about the rarity, i'm arguing that it happens and basing your argument on VCA is flawed; it's helpful sometimes, sure, but when your argument is "look at this wagon, it solidifies X as scum" no.

also i wasn't specifically talking about lynch wagons, but any wagon. and seeing as your VCA includes wagons on unflipped players, you seem to be talking about that, too. it's not that rare that full town wagons occur at different stages of a game (especially a large game)

[Ms Marangal]

VOTE: Titus

nooppeee

[Ms Marangal]

I do have to admit that Prophy selectively choosing the D1 lynches and pretty much effectively ignoring the fact that that is a few games out of several played here is pretty hillarious and... naive, I guess?

[Ms Marangal]

Here's what we are going to do.

we are going to lynch the following players in the following order

Titus
Pie
Prophy
Zmuffin
Sakura
SAD
Norl
F16
KBBQ
GM/myself
Nacho/thor
Geists


because we can afford to, and it is beneficial for us to force scum to kill the stronger players as early as they can, and still have to deal with stronger players who can sniff scum out later on. We will be getting rid of the weakest links, getting rid of the people scum could easily be using as mislynch bait. we aren't even going to think of lyncing Norl down unless we have to, everyone below him is, what I consider to be, the town block (or, rather should be)

[geists]

Why do you have SAD so high in your list?

[KoreanBBQ]

Sakura Hana (8) -

Tammy

, Casso the King of Seals,

DOMO

,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Sakura Hana,

geists

,

Desperado

,

KoreanBBQ

Why is Sakura voting herself?

Would want to burn SAD for this, alone.

What is this shit I don't even...

And yet you didnt say anything when I said the same thing

[KoreanBBQ]

Also I kinda like prophy now

[KoreanBBQ]

VOTE: SAD
Weeeeeeeeeeee

[Sakura Hana]

And then there's me wondering why you have me as a scumread, yet you're not voting me.

My read on you isn't as strong as Titus, also I already had a scumread on Bert and my case is somewhere in D3.

[goodmorning]

You choose to focus on my votal analysis, and you dismiss/discredit it. That fits the definition of a strawman to me.

Technically strawmanning requires that you discredit an untrue representation of someone's point. She just discredited your point.

As much as I would love to lynch Titus, I don't think that's the way to go today.

[Sakura Hana]

then let's go with SAD.

[Titus]

MM, Pie is town. After me, lynch Prophy. He is obvscum.

[Titus]

Sakura/Prophy Bus each other already! Calling each other unbaised while scumreading each other. Confbiasing me while putting together meta vcas.

Prophy, you and I both know that was a cherrypick.

[Titus]

Sakura/Prophy Bus each other already! Calling each other unbaised while scumreading each other. Confbiasing me while putting together meta vcas.

Prophy, you and I both know that was a cherrypick.

[Titus]

I hate doing this, but if you are going to insist I am scum, lynch me today.

If one of the masons/geists doesn't die, consider scum there. Outed masons and a semi-conftown should not be alive Day 6 or 7.
One of Prophy/Sakura is almost certainly scum. Casso needs examining. So do F16 and KBBQ.
PIE and SAD are town.

[Sakura Hana]

One of Prophy/Sakura is almost certainly scum.

So we aren't scum together anymore? where did you pick up this chance that maybe is only one of us scum.
And i'm policy scumreading you because im not falling for your "I'm using moonlogic hence im town" trap again that you pulled on me on C9--
Also notice my vote is on SAD.

[Titus]

That wasn't a trap. I do tend to be clearer as scum. That's because I already know the answer. However, slips in logic are more likely to come from scum me. You may disagree with my logic as town, but it will be valid. Scum logic will be invalid but sound really good.

My points were not valid on Fu in that game, but I didn't push as hard because I knew it wouldn't stand to scrutiny and let the group carry the weight. In order to push a mislynch as scum hard, someone has to do something really scummy.

Saying one of you is almost certainly scum =/= you aren't scum together. There's just no way the both of you have town PMs.

[Titus]

A policy scumread really? That's what you've got. Then fucking lynch me. Scum won't shoot me with the policy lynch for winning as scum. You'll then lynch me in lylo and we lose. So just lynch me now and get it over with even though it's impossible for me to be scum.