Open 571- Pick Your Poison Game over

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HAMMER

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[Fluminator]

Trying to rush a Lynch on an easily testable power role. Hmmm...

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Trying to rush a Lynch on an easily testable power role. Hmmm...

Yep. Failed the test night one.

[Fluminator]

If you're so sure there is another real vig, why not let the vig take her out tonight? From your point of view that should be common sense.

[Alchemist21]

Guys, I think the vote count on Matsuri already reached 6.

[Alchemist21]

Never mind. I missed an unvote.

[reinoe]

If you're so sure there is another real vig, why not let the vig take her out tonight? From your point of view that should be common sense.

Why don't we lynch scum so that the real vig can shoot one of their scum-spects? There's an outside chance that there is no vig at all. But we can't rely on "directing" the vig shots because the scum can influence the vig to shoot townies anyway.

[SXTLHGaiden]

you guys can't count.

[Alchemist21]

I still don't buy Matsumi's claim.

If there is a vig in the game, I wouldn't want them wasting a shot on a target that can be lynched today.

If there is no vig, we're needlessly allowing a scum to survive one more day.

Vote: Matsumi Sisters

For the record, I'm positive this brings it to L-1.

[SXTLHGaiden]

i think i've noticed something important, but i want to make sure the rationale is correct.
alchemist, unvote just to humor me for a bit.

[Alchemist21]

i think i've noticed something important, but i want to make sure the rationale is correct.
alchemist, unvote just to humor me for a bit.

If you want me to unvote, you'll have to explain what you're planning first.

[SXTLHGaiden]

it's not so much a plan as it is me running through all possible setups and figuring out the best play.

[Alchemist21]

And you can't do that without me unvoting?

[SXTLHGaiden]

i just want to make sure i have enough time to properly think this through without fear of a hammer.

[SXTLHGaiden]

and you seem to be on, so you are the best person to ask for this.

[Alchemist21]

Sorry, but I believe the Sisters are scum, and I'm not unvoting just so a player who's been trolling the game can have more time to think.

[SXTLHGaiden]

sigh, fine then.

[Krystal Bald]

If you're so sure there is another real vig, why not let the vig take her out tonight? From your point of view that should be common sense.

Why don't we lynch scum so that the real vig can shoot one of their scum-spects? There's an outside chance that there is no vig at all. But we can't rely on "directing" the vig shots because the scum can influence the vig to shoot townies anyway.

It's not about the shot; we lose a lynch if she shoots someone tonight (unless we have a JK who stops a kill) (but since we're directing the shot we can just use it as a second lynch anyway).
It's about the fact that there's a potential for her to be confirmed town tomorrow. And the fact that we don't actually gain anything by lynching her today as opposed to tomorrow.
As Flum says, worst-case scenario is that the scum shoot the same person Matsumi does and we lynch the vig. So basically, in the worst-case scenario we're still doing what you want to do today and lynching Matsumi, but we're also forcing the scum to make a shitty kill. So please can the instant gratification attitude for ten minutes and use your fucking brain. This is the right play. We're not lynching Matsumi.

[Fluminator]

If you're so sure there is another real vig, why not let the vig take her out tonight? From your point of view that should be common sense.

Why don't we lynch scum so that the real vig can shoot one of their scum-spects? There's an outside chance that there is no vig at all. But we can't rely on "directing" the vig shots because the scum can influence the vig to shoot townies anyway.

Well first of all, It is better for vig to take out confirmed scum. Especially in this situation.
Vig targets can't claim.
Town taking out confscum instead of vig brings much less information. (She isn't even conf scum yet. I'm getting less sure as I watch this wagon stay on her after she claims.)
And there is absolutely no way the vig won't shoot Matsumi tonight. If there is one.

[reinoe]

If you're so sure there is another real vig, why not let the vig take her out tonight? From your point of view that should be common sense.

Why don't we lynch scum so that the real vig can shoot one of their scum-spects? There's an outside chance that there is no vig at all. But we can't rely on "directing" the vig shots because the scum can influence the vig to shoot townies anyway.

Well first of all, It is better for vig to take out confirmed scum. Especially in this situation.
Vig targets can't claim.
Town taking out confscum instead of vig brings much less information. (She isn't even conf scum yet. I'm getting less sure as I watch this wagon stay on her after she claims.)
And there is absolutely no way the vig won't shoot Matsumi tonight. If there is one.

It is remarkable about how little you cared about doing wagon analysis when that shitty wagon on randommidget formed.

Who's the scum on randommidget's wagon and why? Or are you going to try and blow our minds and claim that random's wagon was all town?

[Fluminator]

I haven't had time to post my wagon analysis on midget because I have been busy trying to stop the day from ending almost instantly.