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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:20 pm

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I'm going to metagame for a second...

The below quote are the players left:
Players Alive (8):
Bamboomancer the wealthy businessman
LoudMouthLee the innocent child
Coron the townsperson
PeaceBringer the townsperson
Mastermind of Sin (replacing BabyJesus) the townsperson
Thesp (replacing sycko999) the townsperson
PookyTheMagicalBear the townsperson
Stam (replacing HairyMezican) the townsperson
The following players post nearly every day:
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Bamboo
Thesp
Pooky

The next group are players who post at least sometimes:
Stam
Peacebringer

The following group are players who are not following the game:
Coron
MoS

With this metagaming, I believe that Coron and MoS are both pro-town. They would both be more active anti-town players. However,
Mod, Please Replace these deadbeats.


As for the players alive, a kill was submitted and made. It was the right kill. Therefore, i'm willing to believe, again, that either Pooky or Thesp is mafia.

As of right now, I'm going back to my initial thought and
Vote: Pooky


If we disagree, let me know.

PS: Order of lynchings.
Pooky
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:09 am

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A word to support my innocence:
Look at post 554.
At that time Pooky and Crola had 4 votes each, it was 18 hour before deadline, so there was no time for a third bandwagon. Each of them had about 50% of being lynched. Then I unvoted pooky and voted Crola, setting Crola as an almost assured lynched. (Eventually we ended the day with no lynch, but of course, there was no way I could have anticipated that.) If I were Crola's co-scum, this move would be suicidal of me at that point. Remember that there were 13 players still allive including two cops and a watcher. There is no way I could have survived that.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:42 am

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BTW, the same argument convince me that PB is most likely innocent.
I now tend to think Pooky is innocent too, for pressing to go for the ex-cons very early in the game.

This leaves us with Thesp, coron and MOS, which I think we should lynch in the next 3 days. Among these three I tend to think MOS is innocent because of pro-town actions of BabyJesus before he was replaced, but I can't be sure about that. I would go with lynching Thesp or coron today, but not before we have some discussion.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:59 am

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Prodding inactive players.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:04 pm

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please give me just a little more time. I'm working on getting DSL tonight and I'm finishing work today, and I have a wedding to go to tomorrow, as well as a company picnic.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:44 pm

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LoudmouthLee wrote:With this metagaming, I believe that Coron and MoS are both pro-town. They would both be more active anti-town players. However,
Mod, Please Replace these deadbeats.


As for the players alive, a kill was submitted and made. It was the right kill. Therefore, i'm willing to believe, again, that either Pooky or Thesp is mafia.

As of right now, I'm going back to my initial thought and Vote: Pooky

If we disagree, let me know.

PS: Order of lynchings.
Pooky
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I do disagree. :) I also think setting up an "order of lynches" will be unhelpful for figuring things out on future days, should we not hit today. I hate to say this, but I will need a day or two to re-read our living players' posts and voting patterns.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:23 pm

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I am ok with MoS and Thesp taking their time to reread the thread. I am just not sure if our mod will be ok with that. I don't want us to find ourselves in a deadline this day too . So everyone,
please start posting
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Thesp, I don't see why giving order of lynches is unhelpful. If we lynch, say, pooky today (which I am against) and then LML dies tonight, it would be very helpful to know who LML would suggest if he could still post. Not that what he says must be true, but it is good to know his opinion. I guess you don't like being in his list, the same way I don't.
LML, with all due respect to metagaming, we have much more information than posting frequencies to rely on. Besides, what you say only applies to recent posts. Thesp and myself both replaced total non-posters, MoS replaced a very frequent poster and I think Pooky used to post less than he posts now in the beginning of the game. I also don't see why the scum should post a lot. I don't think the scum could have prevented Crola's lynch by posting more, and if he did it will just help finding him. Is what you say about MoS and coron being active when anti-town based on your experience with them in previous games? Are they less active when they are pro-town?
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:02 pm

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lol, my activity won't help you... look at the last two newbie games I finished. I was an über lurker, and I won them both as scum. I am less active because I have less time over the summer.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:10 pm

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The fact of the matter is this. LmL or I die tonight, and it's probalby going to be me so I'd like to live to endgame and catch the scum now. I WILL be posting a detailed analysis of each living townie, but it probably wont' be till I'm off from work on tuesday.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:12 pm

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BTW, my gut tells me thesp.
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Okay, it's not BABOOM. It's not BAMBOOM.
It's Bamboomancer: like necromancer, but with bamboo instead of necro.

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I am not a Baboom. I am some sort of bamboo magic man.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:54 pm

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Just re-read Pook's voting history. He only voted for Jerry (scum), Crola (scum) and IS (actig scummy.)

Unvote: Pooky
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:20 am

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Stam, I do think we should state who we think should be lynched (especially our confirmed innocents should state their top 3), but I'm disinclined to set a "lynch order" for them now, as on future days scum might avail their responsibility to their vote by simply following a predetermined lynch order. In any case, here is my post review:

Our innocents:

Bamboomancer the wealthy businessman
LoudMouthLee the innocent child

'Nuff said.

Our suspects:

Coron the townsperson

Was suspicious of the cops. Only ever voted for Assasin. Out of anyone. Ever.

PeaceBringer the townsperson

Voted Assasin, StD and Crola. Unusual comment, though, here:
PeaceBringer wrote:Oh and nonchalance, I hate this since you townie and all but you SHOULD NOT BE PMING PEOPLE PRODS TO VOTE. VIOLATION OF THE RULES AND SHOULD GET YOU MOD KILLED!
I have no problem with the yelling for severely violating rules, but the use of the wrd "townie" here is striking. He's presuming her innocence. Guess where my vote's going to end up?

Mastermind of Sin (replacing BabyJesus) the townsperson
Mastermind of Sin wrote:vote: crola

I haven't really liked the way Nanook has been playing, so I think his reasoning for the Jerry vote was to perhaps protect scumbuddy crola, so I think I'll go with that.
Votes Crola earlier (not on the lynching of Crola) instead of Nanook (where his justification expects a vote for Nanook), but does so in a way trying to clear JerrytheBean.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:lol, my activity won't help you... look at the last two newbie games I finished. I was an über lurker, and I won them both as scum.
???
Isn't that a potential pattern? Seems like trying to preemptively steer us away from looking for recent patterns in his play.

Also, re: his predecessor, BabyJesus voted for JerrytheBean right off the bat, then moved to be on the FD2 lynch. Voted Assasin (to the lynch) and Peacebringer (at an off time). Has posted many, many excuses for lack of participation/contribution, despite being a replacement player.

Thesp (replacing sycko999) the townsperson

It's not me.

PookyTheMagicalBear the townsperson

Was on FD2 lynch and Assasin lynch. Voted StD, and has been adamant about lynching excons throughout game. Given both our excons were scum, I'm thinking Pooky is unlikely as scum.

Stam (replacing HairyMezican) the townsperson

Lurker hunted at start of replacement. Wanted to lynch Crola pretty fiercely.

His predecessor voted FD2 not caring if he was mafia or not, and voted assasin.


In retrospect, I don't know why I bothered saying anything about anyone's votes on Assasin, as he was obviously guilty and obviously everyone voted for him.

In any case, since we have three lynches left, I'm inclined to think right now that our best bets are with PeaceBringer, Mastermind of Sin, and Coron. I think it's highly probable our last scum is with them. The quote from PeaceBringer disturbs me the most, and I think he's most likely to be scum.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:43 am

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thesp- nice try, but wrong, try again.

I am nothing but a bored townie.

Fell free to lynch me, but I shall once again

unvote, VOTE CORON
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:38 am

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Vote Count:

1 Peacebringer (Thesp)
1 Coron (Peacebringer)

6 not voting (Bamboomancer, Coron, Mastermind of Sin, PookyTheMagicalBear, Stam, LoundMouthLee)

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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:28 am

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Deadline - Tuesday August 9, 3:30 PM EDT, one week from this post. I'll consider removing it if conversation picks up.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:41 am

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As I said before I consider voting coron or Thesp.
I am leaning toward Thesp based on his BS vote on PeaceBringer, but I would like to hear from coron before I vote.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:15 pm

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Stam wrote:I am leaning toward Thesp based on his BS vote on PeaceBringer, but I would like to hear from coron before I vote.
???
What did you make of what he said?

I missed the part in the thread where nonchalance had been confirmed as townie, and I don't know how else Peacebringer might have known she was townie. It seems very, very out of place.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:15 pm

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Thesp, ever here of logic? I didn't know for an absolute fact but I was fairly certain related to game behavior that this was the case.

Besides, this is open role. Only thing hidden is who is scum. Not real impressed with that aspect of this personally. I think it helped create the vacuum of game play we have. Townies will be disengaged and the scum will trying to look like townie. Coron to me behavior is odd for coron.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:19 am

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gaaah, what is this ghost town?
vote coron
just to get him to post something.
If/when he does, I will consider switching to Thesp.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:54 pm

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vote Thesp


I like thesp as scum better than coron,

we need to do something about the deadbeats
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:46 am

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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:41 am

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Vote: Thesp


Think it's the 2nd best lynch today.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:51 am

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In view of the impending deadline,
Vote: Coron
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:53 am

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LoudmouthLee wrote:
Vote: Thesp


Think it's the 2nd best lynch today.
What is the 1st best lynch?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:35 am

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again I'd like to apologize for lurking. It seems I've had to do this in every game I'm in -_-. And Thesp, feel free to look into my play style. I'm just saying that it won't help you, as far as activity goes. I've been playing this way all summer due to reduced amount of time online.
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