Driving Mafia - GAME OVER - Kentic controls all the cock!

[StrangerCoug]

I'm the Town Cop.

Night One I investigated StevieT, and got an Innocent. (This might explain better why I lost interest in him, huh?)

Un-FoS: Nobody Special and StevieT92

Confirm vote: kiwieagle

[DeasVail]

SC, kiwi. What make you instantly believe Nobody's claim?

[StrangerCoug]

There really isn't a reason not to, especially with his sudden drop of StevieT92.

[kiwieagle]

SC, kiwi. What make you instantly believe Nobody's claim?

I dont.


Also the way SC suddenly jumps on me, makes me believe it less

[StrangerCoug]

What relevance do I have to Nobody Special's claim, as if I'm going to get an answer?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote kiwi

I agree with SC here even though he is still one of my suspects.

[Shadow Dancer]

*teethgrind* A cop claim... Hello there VI-cop? Or scum trying to buy another day? Anyway, not our today's lynch any more! If it's a fake claim and a real cop wants to CC: DON'T! Scum fake claiming cop is already an auto guilty.

@Deas:Your reason is "that you think he is scum". Please spare me the pulling teeth and continue straight to

why

you think he, or noc when we're at it, is scum

.

I don't like kiwi's reaction to the claim at all. What was so scummy about the claim?

[DeasVail]

Shadow, but how would we know it's a fakeclaim if the real cop doesn't cc?

Shadow, I'm sure I already said why I suspected Shadow. Why aren't you paying much attention to the game?

I already explained my reasons for voting nocmen too.

Ok, just ISO'd myself and found them. I can't believe I actually had to ISO myself...

Spoiler: Reasons Provided Day 1

StrangerCoug:

-I didn't like his jump onto the mask wagon- disagreeing with part of the case and agreeing with the other part seemed like scum trying to not look like they were buddying to me.
-As mentioned already- makes out scooby to be the attacker (even though he agreed), which sounded to me like scum attempting to fuel a town-town conflict- "Scooby says..." -I didn't like the defence against this either- (part of it is *I obviously haven't caused a conflict now, have I*")
-Over-the-top (in my opinion) defence of the mask and the rolefishing thing
-I didn't like the vote change to Ankamius- Did SC actually find him scummy? Why would Ank have bothered defending if there wasn't anything solid to defend against (and I thought his actions were made pretty obvious anyway)
SC, why do you suspect me (Ankamius)?

Spoiler: Reasons Provided Day 2

Now, why I suspect you:

-Reasons for my day 1 suspicion were provided on day 1. You responded to it, but it didn't really alter what I thought of you.
-You seemed to make a much bigger deal out of the hammer than I would have expected and it seems quite likely to me that you knew he was town. Things like waiting for my answer before hammering and the posts you make about reading F62 make it seem that way, but I'm really not sure what to make of your hammer. These are just my thoughts.
-One of the big things for me is your suspicion of me. I have trouble really believing it, especially since most of the points you bring up against me don't seem to be very justified and you didn't seem too concerned with pushing for my lynch day 1 either

.

The Nocmen vote was basically reaction fishing because I was bored and felt that he could be scum.

[DeasVail]

Replace the third Shadow in my post with StrangerCoug

[kiwieagle]

*teethgrind* A cop claim... Hello there VI-cop? Or scum trying to buy another day? Anyway, not our today's lynch any more! If it's a fake claim and a real cop wants to CC: DON'T! Scum fake claiming cop is already an auto guilty.

@Deas:Your reason is "that you think he is scum". Please spare me the pulling teeth and continue straight to

why

you think he, or noc when we're at it, is scum

.

I don't like kiwi's reaction to the claim at all. What was so scummy about the claim?

im sorry?

My scumdar broke because if that claim was true then I have most of my reads wrong.

[StevieT92]

unvote

[Fishythefish]

@NS: do you have flavour? What's your name?

[kiwieagle]

First.

Also I'm a miller.

and VOTE: StrangerCoug

trust me, i'm stranger.

vote kdca

Sorry I am a miller.

kiwieagle is so fuckin retarded.

Scum are gonna have an easy time this game... they just have to lynch me...

FTFY

Actually Coug just become confirmed scum.

scooby says you over-analyzed an irrelevant fact (Norman replacing out). Would you like to explain this?

Why did you feel the need to emphasize that I was the one that made the case when you agreed with me in this line of question?

What part of TheMask answer did you agree with that you unvoted him inmediately?

Vote: StrangerCoug

What?
No seriously please explain how someone pointed out that you made the case in the first place is a scum tell.

Its a common scumtell.

Scum usually try to make townies fight. In this scenario, Coug is the scumbag trying to make TheMask town attack me.

Its not about me doing the case and coug reinforcing it. Its the tone. Its like "SCOOBY said that you are scum, what do you think about it, huh?". Something like that.

wut? When did Coug did just that?

unvote
vote scooby

How the fuck did you come up with that list?

You have ankius at like and me at not serious?

Are you sure you know how to play.

Please explain in detail at least three of your reads.

I got proded. Lol.


Anyway nothing interesting happened.

You flipped on mask to coug in literally three posts.

You also formed a read list nearly complete in only 7 pages.

Scum.

What's with the cooldog and stevie wagons?

Can't you realize how fail they are?

I updated my list

like
ankamius
stevie
kiwieafle
the mask
kcdaspot

undecided
NS
Shadow dancer
farside

dont like
vezo
rice
nocmen
strangercoug
cooldog


basically kcadspot is notable town read, i cant decide farside, im starting to hate vezo and rice. and i agree with the cooldog hate, specially the appeal to emtion on top of page, also 2 days to deadline, we have to vote for one of the top wagons, etc

vote: cooldog

You OMGUSed me and now you vote coodog?
If you were town you would've push on me thinking I am the bad guy. There is no way you are town.

But there is also Deas who is worse than you.

Th post with lynch him not me is terrible. I've never seen a townie do that.

unvote vote daes

Kcdaspot's up and apparently leaving the

SITE

after I agreed with him after flipping through the Driving and Desert threads screams like it should be a tell one way or the other, but I'm not sure what to think about it. It seems better to focus on other things, like the person flailing like mad yesterday...

VOTE: DeasVail

Riceballtail's not off the hook either.

Perfect example of a scum voting another scum.

unvote
vote SC

Yes. I'm a miller.

I didn't want him hammered before I had your answer. That simple.

I'm going to go ahead and UNVOTE: DeasVail since my vote on him is getting increasingly hard to justify. My gut on Riceballtail, the other person who I said was suspicious, is telling me that putting it there is no better.

Looking at Nobody Special and StevieT92.

This is a scum post. Especially with the next one voting NS.

(2) Nobody Special - StevieT92, kiwieagle. StrangerCoug, petroleumjelly

Either the mod made a mistake or you guys are without votes.

It was a mistake. Fixed. - Amrun

unvote
vote kiwi

I agree with SC here even though he is still one of my suspects.

I would call you obvscum lurker but this is a common occurrence soooooo.


One of my scum suspects votes me for not answering a question. (I admit it, I HATE HATE HATE answering many questions. Meta me.)
and
A meager vote made by a feeble slot.

I seriously dont know how to defend myself.

[StevieT92]

Something feels a bit off FoS:RBT...can't place it yet though



oh wait no!

I know whats off!
All of her posts are filled with fluff and have less than ten words!

The attached quote is after he attacks me for trying to lynch RBT when I never voted RBT.
I also do not like kiwi saying that CoolDog is an obv mislynch - seems like opportunistic scum play.

vote: kiwieagle

also the 'i don't know how to defend myself' makes me smh

[DeasVail]

Hmm, I didn't think that scum would be so bold as to proclaim someone they knew would be a mislynch as an obvious mislynch.

[kiwieagle]

So I have a wagon on me.

YAY!

Atleast I know NS was lying now.


Nice counter-wagon though.

[kiwieagle]

Something feels a bit off FoS:RBT...can't place it yet though



oh wait no!

I know whats off!
All of her posts are filled with fluff and have less than ten words!

The attached quote is after he attacks me for trying to lynch RBT when I never voted RBT.
I also do not like kiwi saying that CoolDog is an obv mislynch - seems like opportunistic scum play.

vote: kiwieagle

also the 'i don't know how to defend myself' makes me smh

You should of added more content when you voted me.

Rule of thumb while scum: When you wanna set a vote on someone but aren't sure how to without being suspicious, add a load of bullshit and make big thing about petty mistakes.

Vezok and stevie completely forgot about that.

[kiwieagle]

Also:

If I was scum, wouldnt you think I would be MUCH MORE CAREFUL where I tread, PJ?
I wouldnt be so flippant, and would of actually made a case on kcda (which if I tried I could of very easily lynched. Stevie, my hypothetical scumbuddy, was already trying to push his mislynch.

Something feels a bit off FoS:RBT...can't place it yet though



oh wait no!

I know whats off!
All of her posts are filled with fluff and have less than ten words!

The attached quote is after he attacks me for trying to lynch RBT when I never voted RBT.
I also do not like kiwi saying that CoolDog is an obv mislynch - seems like opportunistic scum play.

vote: kiwieagle

also the 'i don't know how to defend myself' makes me smh

unvote
vote kiwi

I agree with SC here even though he is still one of my suspects.

...and stevie, if I was scum it would of been much easier to vote than to defend.

Since people in this game have a tendency to ignore bullshit votes like these:

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP:

Since people in this game have a tendency to ignore bullshit votes like these:

-insert quotes-

[Shadow Dancer]

@Deas: I see, so your D2 vote on Coug (that still abides) is so far only justified by some points based on his D1 play that seem either really minor (like those semi-RVS shenanigans) or smell terribly of OMGUS (he voted Anka... And I say this because all the people you expressed suspicion of so far were people on the Anka waggon).
You were reaction fishing for reactions on Norman - and still felt he could be scum - which is the point I asked you to elaborate on in the first place. Stop the walking in circles. That doesn't even make sense. Either you place a fake vote to "fish for reactions" or you vote a real suspect - in which case you should be able to explain the vote properly.

About the cop claim: If it's a fake claim we'll know it once either a real cop dies or claims, preferably with a guilty or at least some innocents alive (this should happen before LyLo obviously). If there is no real cop there is a good amount of town roles (p.e. millers, tracking-roles, roleblockers) that could uncover a fake claim. Lynching a claimed cop woth very little other information is never good play for town.

@kiwi: Why is it out of question that most of your reads are wrong? It's only D2, would you expect any different? Do you prefer to cockily insist upon your early reads just not to have to admit that you might have been wrong?

[petroleumjelly]

1.)

kiwieagle, you claim you isolated Kcdaspot’s posts the day you said he was scummy (November 12). If that is when you saw the “horrible contradiction,” I fail to see how Kcdaspot’s ragequit (November 16) would have stopped you from pointing out the “horrible contradiction” on Day One.

Explain.

2.)

kiwieagle,

If I was scum, wouldnt you think I would be MUCH MORE CAREFUL where I tread, PJ?

Curious. How would you propose I catch you if you are scum?

3.)

kiwieagle,

Where are you getting the idea that StevieT92 is your “hypothetical scumbuddy”? I don’t recall saying anything of the sort.

4.)

kiwieagle,

most importantly

, why did you say the following in the words you did:

I wouldnt be so flippant, and would of actually made a case on kcda (which if I tried I could of very easily lynched. Stevie, my hypothetical scumbuddy,

was already trying to push his mislynch.

Because right now, it looks like you just conceded that lynching Kcdaspot (i.e., me) would result in a mislynch.

5.)

Nobody Special,

->

a.)

Full claim, and explain your flavor (as FishytheFish requested);
->

b.)

Why did you choose to investigate StevieT92?
->

c.)

Why did you start Day Two by saying StrangerCoug was “absolutely” scum if you are a Town Cop but you do not actually have a result on StrangerCoug? If you had died overnight and flipped Cop, your posting would suggest you had a guilty on StrangerCoug, and

not

an innocent on StevieT92.

6.)

If somebody is going to counterclaim StevieT92, I would suggest doing it immediately. The whole

point

of a Cop is to confirm a few alignments of living players before you die. Counterclaiming a fake-claim does exactly that without the risk of dying overnight.

[petroleumjelly]

6.)

If somebody is going to counterclaim

Nobody Special

, I would suggest doing it immediately. The whole

point

of a Cop is to confirm a few alignments of living players before you die. Counterclaiming a fake-claim does exactly that without the risk of dying overnight.

^ Fixed ^

[kiwieagle]

@SD

Whats wrong with being confident in your reads?
Playing mafia is all about having initiative. Is it not?


I didnt understand your question though
Could your rephrase?

Is it like this: Are you saying NS is wrong just so you are right with your reads?

If so, no.

[kiwieagle]

1.)

kiwieagle, you claim you isolated Kcdaspot’s posts the day you said he was scummy (November 12). If that is when you saw the “horrible contradiction,” I fail to see how Kcdaspot’s ragequit (November 16) would have stopped you from pointing out the “horrible contradiction” on Day One.

Explain.

2.)

kiwieagle,

If I was scum, wouldnt you think I would be MUCH MORE CAREFUL where I tread, PJ?

Curious. How would you propose I catch you if you are scum?

3.)

kiwieagle,

Where are you getting the idea that StevieT92 is your “hypothetical scumbuddy”? I don’t recall saying anything of the sort.

4.)

kiwieagle,

most importantly

, why did you say the following in the words you did:

I wouldnt be so flippant, and would of actually made a case on kcda (which if I tried I could of very easily lynched. Stevie, my hypothetical scumbuddy,

was already trying to push his mislynch.

Because right now, it looks like you just conceded that lynching Kcdaspot (i.e., me) would result in a mislynch.

5.)

Nobody Special,

->

a.)

Full claim, and explain your flavor (as FishytheFish requested);
->

b.)

Why did you choose to investigate StevieT92?
->

c.)

Why did you start Day Two by saying StrangerCoug was “absolutely” scum if you are a Town Cop but you do not actually have a result on StrangerCoug? If you had died overnight and flipped Cop, your posting would suggest you had a guilty on StrangerCoug, and

not

an innocent on StevieT92.

6.)

If somebody is going to counterclaim StevieT92, I would suggest doing it immediately. The whole

point

of a Cop is to confirm a few alignments of living players before you die. Counterclaiming a fake-claim does exactly that without the risk of dying overnight.

When did I ever call you scum...?

[kiwieagle]

Like, I might of in the begining of D1 but...?