In post 5707, FourTrouble wrote:
I have no fucking clue what you're talking about here.
This analysis blows. Scum want to avoid being lynched, so now being able to argue that he shouldn't be lynched because it kills Ceph too, is what scum would do in this situation, regardless of Ceph's alignment.
Ozgin didn't argue that he shouldn't be lynched because it would kill Cephrir too, is the thing.
In the neighborhood, he's all "Which of you fuckers is Aphrodite?", not "Don't lynch me". Realize you don't have access to that, so I'm telling you.
In the main thread, in
5492, he's more or less making the case that Cephrir dying would be a good thing.
5498 is, yes, AtE with its "scum want the double mislynch", yes, but I can see the thought process from town-Ozgin here -- someone secretly loverizes you, immediate reaction is to think it's scum, immediate conclusion is that scum are getting a second lynch.
The big thing for me is that Ozgin's sitting at L-1 from
12:40pm CST through
2:14pm CST, so about 90 minutes, and doesn't a) explain shit, b) give a rationale for why lynching him would be bad. If he's self-preservationist scum, it'd be trivial to post something like "Hey, who loverized me with Cephrir? I got told by the mod that if I die blah blah blah." Instead it's "Cephrir, you suck."
I do not see an Ozgin-scum / Cephrir-town situation. I could see Ozgin-scum / Cephrir-scum, where Cephrir is coaching Ozgin, but that's the only Ozgin-scum possibility that makes sense to me, and I don't class it as very likely at all.
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Only slightly related, I'm super fucking annoyed at F16's "I've got role info that Ozgin is scum guiz" that was obvious bullshit, and I hate that sort of crap because it derails town because someone feels like playing hero rather than mafia. Flashbacks to Magister Ludi single-handedly fucking up A Feast for Crows with his bullshit cop claim. So, being entirely honest here, half of not wanting to lynch Ozgin is out of spite, the only emotion I can still feel.
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Falcon flipping town makes me feel better about Imperium, so I probably won't vig them tonight.
I like Espeonage's posting, which is pretty much words I never though I'd ever say.