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Post Post #5750 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:56 pm

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In post 5745, FourTrouble wrote:Esp, what're your reads on Ozgin and Cephrir? They've both been self preservationist -- so is there some reason you're voting me instead of them?


Don't have them. I didn't particularly like what I've seen from Cephrir but I already gave an explaination of why they shouldn't be lynched together from my viewpoint.

2714, 2723 are both pretty bad, re: self preservation. Nor is your insistence of pushing the dying wagon on Ozgin after explaination has happened. Also the subtle discounting of your wagon and saying it's between TD and No lynch gives me bad feels.
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Post Post #5751 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:11 pm

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In post 5750, Espeonage wrote:
In post 5745, FourTrouble wrote:Esp, what're your reads on Ozgin and Cephrir? They've both been self preservationist -- so is there some reason you're voting me instead of them?


Don't have them. I didn't particularly like what I've seen from Cephrir but I already gave an explaination of why they shouldn't be lynched together from my viewpoint.

2714, 2723 are both pretty bad, re: self preservation. Nor is your insistence of pushing the dying wagon on Ozgin after explaination has happened. Also the subtle discounting of your wagon and saying it's between TD and No lynch gives me bad feels.


Explain how either of those posts are scummy.

Re: pushign Ozgin -- the explanation for not pushing him is bullshit and I'm calling folks out on that. Ceph's role should not no affect on the analysis. If either one of Ozgin/Ceph are scum, and if both TD and me are town, then the lynch should be on Ozgin/Ceph. Your "reasonable doubt" explanation also makes no sense.
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Post Post #5752 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:15 pm

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btw, self preservation standing alone isn't scummy.

I'm not going to vote myself. From MY perspective, the only viable options for Today are lynching Ozgin, TD, or no lynching. I will NOT vote myself.
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Post Post #5753 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:22 pm

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Ceph, if you could lynch anyone in this game right now, who would it be?
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Post Post #5754 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:24 pm

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In post 5739, T S O wrote:twie how come we've both done nothing and everyone and their mother is scumreading me

and not you


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Post Post #5755 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:25 pm

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In post 5746, Andrius wrote:
In post 5733, TheWayItEnds wrote:Andy, whos votes are doubled?

You, Me, Skybird.
Doubled today, no vote tomorrow.


A. What a dick.

B. I'm interested in why I had to ask that so that I could be the one to notify people that Skybird's vote makes TD L-1
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Post Post #5756 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:26 pm

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and by the way

TD IS AT L-1
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Post Post #5757 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:27 pm

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In post 5753, FourTrouble wrote:Ceph, if you could lynch anyone in this game right now, who would it be?

I'd have to iso Skybird/ace/Ank/TSO to pick a top scumread. I want to lynch all of them.
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Post Post #5758 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:29 pm

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lol

I mean Skybird actually voted no lynch so now I'm lying.

But he was. and you sorta just sat around knowing that.
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Post Post #5759 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:14 pm

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In post 5734, FourTrouble wrote:I've been playing under the assumption I'd be night-killed very soon, given the number of folks calling me town -- F-16, Ceph, Nacho, mastin, etc. -- and also because I think I'm 100% right about at least Ooba.

Funny how I'm not voting you and voting TD right now. My reads change - doesn't make me scum.

Also - I'm now of the opinion that TD is the best lynch for today.
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Post Post #5760 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:40 pm

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It was F-16 that wanted hammer right?
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Post Post #5761 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:14 pm

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Yes, F-16 wanted the hammer.
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Post Post #5762 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:16 pm

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F16 failed dayvig
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Post Post #5763 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:18 pm

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i disagree that self preservation is scummy inherently. nor does four troubles actions seem that way
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Post Post #5764 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:22 pm

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It's not about self preservation. It's the lack of survivalism, incidentally, in my opinion
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Post Post #5765 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:29 pm

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Oh I can't hammer anyway.

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Post Post #5766 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:35 pm

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i was talking about FT mostly
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Post Post #5767 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:57 pm

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Votecount 48: Well then.

TiphaineDeath (8): Mastin2, Xombie, theaceofspades, farside22, Ooba, The Mask, Ankamius, Ozgin, Cephrir
FourTrouble (7): Metal Sonic, Magua, Heartless, TSO, Vezokpiraka, Imperium, Espeonage
Ozgin (5): FourTrouble, TheWayItEnds, Andrius

No Lynch (2): Skybird

Not Voting: ZZZX, TiphaineDeath

22 alive means 12 to lynch.

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Post Post #5768 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:51 pm

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In post 5707, FourTrouble wrote:
I have no fucking clue what you're talking about here.

This analysis blows. Scum want to avoid being lynched, so now being able to argue that he shouldn't be lynched because it kills Ceph too, is what scum would do in this situation, regardless of Ceph's alignment.


Ozgin didn't argue that he shouldn't be lynched because it would kill Cephrir too, is the thing.

In the neighborhood, he's all "Which of you fuckers is Aphrodite?", not "Don't lynch me". Realize you don't have access to that, so I'm telling you.

In the main thread, in , he's more or less making the case that Cephrir dying would be a good thing. is, yes, AtE with its "scum want the double mislynch", yes, but I can see the thought process from town-Ozgin here -- someone secretly loverizes you, immediate reaction is to think it's scum, immediate conclusion is that scum are getting a second lynch.

The big thing for me is that Ozgin's sitting at L-1 from through , so about 90 minutes, and doesn't a) explain shit, b) give a rationale for why lynching him would be bad. If he's self-preservationist scum, it'd be trivial to post something like "Hey, who loverized me with Cephrir? I got told by the mod that if I die blah blah blah." Instead it's "Cephrir, you suck."

I do not see an Ozgin-scum / Cephrir-town situation. I could see Ozgin-scum / Cephrir-scum, where Cephrir is coaching Ozgin, but that's the only Ozgin-scum possibility that makes sense to me, and I don't class it as very likely at all.

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Only slightly related, I'm super fucking annoyed at F16's "I've got role info that Ozgin is scum guiz" that was obvious bullshit, and I hate that sort of crap because it derails town because someone feels like playing hero rather than mafia. Flashbacks to Magister Ludi single-handedly fucking up A Feast for Crows with his bullshit cop claim. So, being entirely honest here, half of not wanting to lynch Ozgin is out of spite, the only emotion I can still feel.

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Falcon flipping town makes me feel better about Imperium, so I probably won't vig them tonight.

I like Espeonage's posting, which is pretty much words I never though I'd ever say.
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Post Post #5769 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:57 pm

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We should join a legion of vigs


Pls kill one of (ankamius, tso) <<< this is message from vig to vig
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Post Post #5770 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:07 pm

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I thought Magua was vengeful... where'd this vig claim come from?
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Post Post #5771 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:10 pm

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(Andrius is still a scumread btw. Justsayin'.)
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Post Post #5772 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:14 pm

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BUT ITS ANDRIUS.
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Post Post #5773 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:15 pm

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In post 5488, Cephrir wrote:Since this asshat has just loverized me, in the event he is somehow not hammered, VOTE: TD.
This is pretty gay.
Ozgin, you shoulda loverized TD. :igmeou:
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Post Post #5774 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:17 pm

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In post 5507, Ozgin wrote:Andrius, F-16, or Espeonage are likely the culprits.
(Psst. It's Andrius.)
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